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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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In his first speech to the UN in 2005, Iranian President Ahmadinejad (2005-2013) prayed for Mahdi's speedy return.

Ahmadinejad also spent enormous sums of money refurbishing the Jamkaran mosque and building a highway from Tehran's Imam Khomeini Airport to Jamkaran and as quoted:

"in case Imam Mahdi reappears he could travel directly from Jamkaran to Tehran's airport without getting stuck in traffic."

The sense of the emminent, indeed urgency, of Mahdi's coming can't be denied.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 12:54:39 AM
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Foxy,

Of the 17 peace proposals made to both sides 17 have been rejected by the Palestinians and 0 by the Israelis. I think that you are confused as to who prefers the status quo.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 3:13:50 AM
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Paul wrote: "Seems you are comfortable for thousands more innocent women and children to die, well at least until Hamas surrenders and is disbanded,"

Seems Paul is comfortable with 1000s of Gazans dying in order to save the skins of the Hamas terrorists.

BTW, there was a ceasefire in the region that applied up to 6 October. Then something happened....what was that?

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Incidentally Paul, I can't help but notice that, after you asserted that AfD was far right and I'd pointed out there was no basis for the claim, Paul couldn't race for the exits fast enough.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 7:40:22 AM
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Shadow Minister,

There are many explanations offered by political commentators
as to why the negotiations have continuously failed. The jist
of most of them seems to be that left to themselves with little
third party involvement and the highly skewed balance of power
between Israelis and Palestinians the only agreement that could
be reached was a victor's peace that forgoes all elements of
justice.

Third parties like the US and the EU did not take any action
to implement their stated policies of support for Palestinian
rights nor try to secure the implementation of signed
agreements, or the respect of the most basic elements of
international law and human rights.

Worse still they sought to bend and ignore international legitimacy
on the issues to bend to meet Israel's demands and maneuvers.

The claim that Arabs have refused to negotiate peace with Israel
is a tactical strategy used by Israelis from the onset.

I won't go into all the details of Israel's treatment of the
Palestinians that has gone on for decades - it has already
been covered. Suffice to say that -

The Iron Wall was a strategy devised by the Zionist movement
stipulating that any peace negotiations with the Arabs should
happen only under conditions of power asymmetry where Israel is
the strongest party.

Nothing has changed.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 9:33:45 AM
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Oh no...Israel has made a new ceasefire offer:

A two month ceasefire and release of thousands of Palestinians from Israeli gaols and allowing a controlled return of Gazans to north Gaza in return for release of all the hostages.

No prizes for guessing that Hamas rejected it.

No prizes for guessing that the Hamas cheer-squad will pretend to not notice and continue blaming Israel for the lack of a ceasefire.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 10:52:43 AM
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Are the Israelis really talking about the possibility
of ending their occupation and will really end it
and leave the Palestinians be in the eastern side of
Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Gaza?

Wow!. That should stop the armed resistance by the Palestinians
right?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 11:07:59 AM
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