Hi mhaze,
Well, it may have happened just as you say, though I don't know how a missile could explode twice, but less say for argument falling debris hit a car or some other source of liquid fuel.

I'll accept it's possible.

Did you see the other footage of missiles being fired and a different red glow in the air in a different position to all the others?
Some said it was evidence of an Israeli jet in the vicinity at the time, either the glow from the engine (of which F35 only has a single jet engine) or its strafe, or maybe it was another missile on a different trajectory.

- I don't know the answer, but I saw that footage, did you?

And Israel triangulating a Hamas militants burner phone and targeting that person who may have been in a car or a van in the hospital carpark possibly with munitions is probably just as possible as your hypothesis.

Bottom line is that no-one has yet shown anything that is 100% conclusive, which means we're all really just speculating.

You may be right, but you may also be wrong.
Honestly I don't know why you two keep going on with it.
It's last weeks war news, and about 4000 Palestinians dead ago.
Israel dropped it's biggest bombardment yesterday and killed about 700.
There's some 15,000 injured people in Gaza as well so far.

- So what difference does 500 dead make, many of which are kids?
(And not just 'kids', but 'someones' kids...)
It's neither here nor there, (just an inconvenient statistic right?) there will probably be another 700 dead today and another 700 dead tomorrow too.

If you actually think Israels reputation rides on this one single event, then I've got a temple I can sell you...
Israel's got form when it comes to killing innocent people.
Attempting to defend Israels reputation seems pointless because it's hardly spotless anyway, (and given what we can all see on TV) so why are you getting your panties all bunched up over it?

Hi SM,
"they are going out of their way to warn civilians of attacks so they can evacuate"

- I'm sorry but it doesn't matter what biased narrative you choose to play over and over in your head

- AS WE CAN ALL SEE AND JUDGE THE EFFECTS FOR OURSELVES

Maybe this is the part you two don't get, that NOTHING justifies what we're seeing
On what planet do you think blowing up apartment buildings full of people and seeing them dig out women kids and babies...
- Which bloody part of this do you halfwits actually think is acceptable?

Are we supposed to cry our hearts out for the dead Jewish women and kids and then spit on the dead Palestinian women and kids?
Just exactly what response do you want or expect?

Maybe it really is time for some more images of the dead...

Everyone else here (except mhaze and SM)
Please tell me under what circumstances or scenario would make the current images of apartment buildings collapsing after being struck by missiles and all the thousands of dead women and kids acceptable to you?

Dear Foxy,

«The overwhelming majority of men,
women, and children in Gaza have nothing to do with Hamas.»

Is that so?

They may not like Hamas, they may wish them gone, but their whole life is controlled by Hamas, they are poor and miserable because of Hamas, they have Islamic law forced on them by Hamas, they cannot leave because of Hamas, their homes are being destroyed because of Hamas, they are being killed and wounded because of Hamas, they are blockaded because of Hamas, the international aid intended for them is being stolen by Hamas.

Instead,
They could have had a prosperous state of their own, long ago.
They could have been free.
They could have had jobs.
They could have had decent homes.
They could have been able to travel wherever they like.
They could have had a life.
...
and you claim that they have nothing to do with Hamas?

Hamas placed road blocks to prevent ordinary civilian northern Gazans from fleeing to safety in the south.

- Today Israel bombed these road blocks!

Sadly many Gazans are still going to die in this war.

- but at least the surviving others will be set free!

Village idiot,

You say; "they (Israelis) are going out of their way to warn civilians of attacks so they can evacuate" Now that would be counter productive, if you "warn" the non-combatants, then at the same time you must be warning Hamas fighters as well. Now, while the non-combatants are "evacuating" to Christ knows where, you tell me, would not the Hamas fighters also be "evacuating" In fact, its more like the Hamas mob would piss off leaving the non-combatants behind to get bombed to death. That's why the Israelis are murdering about 700 a day. BTW how many Hamas terrorists have the Israelis killed so far. They must be young as there are plenty of dead children on the pile.

Please enlighten me, how does a Hamas terrorist, their looks differ from a regular Palestinian, of the same age and sex. What, do they have a military uniform? Maybe, a tattoo on their forehead that reads; "Hamas Fighter"! You tell me. And while you're at it tell me how do the Israelis know which apartment blocks to target. Otherwise YOU are full of it.

When I first heard the story about Hamas being polite to Israelis at one of the captured Kibbutz, I set it aside; (asked permission to have a banana) as well as some others where they reassured an Israeli mother with kids they would not harm her... Even when I saw that elderly Israeli woman (released hostage) shaking hands with a Hamas leader on her release, I chose not to mention it...
But the possibility that Israel has tried to block this interview seems to thicken the plot a little.

- Some hostages were killed by Israel themselves, though I'm not sure how many.

Why is Israel trying to HIDE this hostage interview?
http://youtu.be/HugMS0k0kB4

Also, I know a very small amount of info regarding the Jewish and Christian beliefs around the 'End Times' but what I don't have a good handle on at all is the Islamic beliefs around the same, and 'martyrs' etc.

In the same way that I say Christians are misguided for helping Jews bring forth the Messianic age, (because they hope to see Jesus return in their lifetimes - amongst other reasons - but are instead active in bringing the world to 'armageddon') I've also heard another argument that some Muslims also wish to bring forth the 'End Times' because their 'Mahdi' would come.

Going by this small bit of info on wikipedia, (if it can be relied upon)
- It seems that different Muslim groups believe different things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

All these 3 Abrahamic religions...
Jews want Moshiach to come.
Christians want Jesus to return.
And (some) Muslims wish for the Mahdi to come.

- Streuth -

They all seem to be slowly marching towards end times prophecies
I've always wondered, are these just 'prophecies';
- Or are they 'self-fulfilling' prophecies?
(That is, that people are active in trying to make their beliefs a reality?)

Hi AC,

If you believe the "END OF DAYS" is just around the corner then you do the good Christian thing like the Branch Davidians, or the Peoples Temple, and don't leave out the Heaven's Gate mob, do what they all did, KILL YOURSELF!

There are those on here who think they are experts on Islam, they are ignorant fools thinking they know it all. Muslims are as varied in their beliefs and practices as much as Christians are. A Turkish mate in Sydney, likes a good scotch, his wife likes chardy. Go to their place for dinner, they do great Turk dinner, but we have a couple of bottles of wine, a few drinks etc, we bring desert, they like cheesecake in particular. When the kids were young they'd put up the Xmas tree, presents photos with Santa, why I asked, mate said; "We live in Australia, I don't want my kids missing out." As for scotch as he said; "What Allah don't see, Allah don't care!" My friend still goes to the mosque when he has to, but he's not real religious in that way. Their kids are as Australian as you and I, all grown up and married not to Turks, the girls husband is Australian, they have 2 kid of their own, and the boy married a girl he met in Italy, they live here on the Gold Coast.

p/s I could just imagine my mate trying to make his wife wear a burqa, I know who'd be wearing the burqa, and it wouldn't be her.