"Then you should state so before providing such links. Otherwise it is understood that Sheikh Imran also represents your personal views.

As far as I can deduce from that video (because I have never seen that fellow before), Sheikh Imran is just an attention-seeking dirty old man, and is anything but religious. As you now say that his views are not yours, I wonder why at all you had to introduce us to that idiot."

One persons terrorist might be another persons freedom fighter.
And one persons idiot might be another persons guru, and vice versa.
- And honestly he's probably not killing women and kids in Gaza, so one could do a lot worse.

I haven't watched him for years, but the video (about Israel) popped up in my youtube feed and so I thought I'd catch some kind of Islamic take on things.
Given the fact that a global jihad might be on the cards if Israel pushes it's luck I figured why not hear what he has to say.

"And I doubt why they are called 'religions' in the first place - perhaps because despite all their flaws, there are still some individuals who manage to spit out their toxic/inedible shells and incorporate the inner sweetness of these three into their personal religion.

- As for the bible, you could probably take out the sweet part
'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you', or 'Treat others the way you'd like to be treated' and throw the rest away, lest it might turn one brain into scrambled eggs, or mash potato.

I see religious people all twisted up, saying this verse is right because that verse says so. Justifying religion with more religion and their moral compass is spinning wildly like a ship in the Bermuda triangle.
Many of whom are talking out of both sides of their mouths calling for killing the enemies of Israel and hoping for WWIII - while telling us how righteous and godly they are.
- That's umm not very Christian...

Hi ttbn,
History is important, especially with conflicts, and especially more so with this one.
Maybe instead of looking at how things are today, and only look at that without putting it into a larger context you should take a look at how things were 'way back when' and ask how did things get to the way they are now.

Palestine 1920: The Other Side of the Palestinian Story
http://youtu.be/QUCeQt8zg5o

Watch 5mins of this and you'll get a small sense of what happened 75 - 80 years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/live/KM5-qF91Ky4

>>In 1946 there was only 500 Jews in the Negev desert. In October of 1946 They carried out what called the 11 points operation where teams of Israeli soldiers would seize a Hilltop take control of it and then they brought in pre-fabricated buildings to create this Kibbutz and they'd be right next to these Arab Villages. In many of these places overnight this Israeli settlement shows up and they bring in people and they're just quadrupling tripling an order of magnitude increasing the Jewish population in the Negev but they were next to these Arab Villages and the Arab villages.
On this one Hillside Israelis took it over, didn't have any water so they're there on top of the hill, got no water the Arabs brought water to them and said here's water welcome our neighbors some of us aren't happy about this but we recognize the inevitability of this, we welcome you and then as 1946 turned into 1948 it became inevitable that Israel was going to take the Negev and so these Arabs all went to their Israeli neighbors and said hey um we're living in peace, so when this happens please let us stay here in our homes and the Israelis are all yep yep;
Boom the war came and they wiped them all out they went into the Villages of the villagers who gave them water and they killed the men took them into a Ravine and shot them they went house by house shooting the men in there; if this sounds a lot like what happened on Saturday it is EXACTLY what happened on Saturday but this time it's Israelis kicking down the door shooting the men evicting hundreds of thousands of these people, they called it the Nakba 'the catastrophe' they put women and children and the surviving men on trucks and shipped them to Gaza and then around Gaza they built a series of kibbutz to hold them in, keep them prisoner...<<

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

CM,

Your thin veneer of "even handiness" is easy to scrape away and exposes an extreme far right nationalist, whose only concern is a racists attitude of white supremacy. A sarcastic negative comment like' "they call the cash register The Jewish Piano" is designed to purvey the impression that ALL Jews are money grabbing thieves, Goebbels would be proud of you, distance yourself, but include yourself at the same time by using the word "they", who are "they"...YOU?

"Both the Hebrew's and the Palestinian's are not Anglo's" an implied put down, that the reader should as an Anglo themselves, regard these non-Anglo's as inferior and therefore unworthy, Gobbels would be proud of you, but he would have refereed to them as non German, same thing.

"so perhaps SOME believe that OUR interest lies in solidarity with Hebrews- BUT perhaps objectively it should be on an arms length basis." (my capitals) You attempt to wedge those uncertain folk into a justifiable anti-Hebrew stance. Maybe you should just see them as Communists and be done with it.

The Netanyahu government is ultra orthodox, ultra
Zionist. Its chabad supporters have made
Netanyahu the longest serving Prime Minister in Israel's
short history. They will continue to be bent on expanding
Israel's illegal Jewish settlements. And, to its deepening
its system of apartheid to increase its horrible
repression and violence in order to keep the Palestinians
down or force them out of their homeland.

That is the reality. However, in Israel dissatisfaction is
growing. It's now upon the Palestinians to exploit the
mounting Israeli dissatisfaction, alienation and bitterness
and to connect with those elements of the Israeli society
willing and able to fight along with them for a truly
egalitarian democracy for all people living in the regions
regardless of race, gender, or religion.

It's a big ask. And it requires the right leadership.
One can live and hope. Because things can't continue as they
are. I am hopeful and believe in the old adage:

"The darkest hour of the night comes just before the dawn!"

Did anyone watch Q and A last night?

Lidia Thorpe was supposed to be on the panel.
Instead Alexander Downer was her replacement.
And, he as always waded into his old patch
as former Foreign Minister in a characteristically
obnoxious and hamfisted way.

As if the Israeli situation isn't precarious enough
already. The repulsive man went on to spew about
retaliation totally unconcerned about the carnage to
innocent civilians on both sides.

He should not be given air-time. We don't need voices
with a total lack of compassion that cause untold
pain and devastation to thousands of innocent people
on both sides. We should not give these people a
platform to preach even further hatred and bigotry.