The land in question is 'disputed', not occupied. People who know their history don't have the time or the interest to spell out the situation - and nothing to gain - so the ignorant will keep on squawking and repeating Palestinian propaganda, and spouting nonsense about "extremists" on "both sides". The fight is between a democratic country on one side, and a bunch of terrorists on the other. The terrorists started it, and now Israel must finish off the terrorists for good. Even then, Israel will probably never know peace, and they will have to constantly be on their guard as they used to be. They let their guard down this time, and they will most likely never do that again. They must get tougher.

Actually, the land is occupied.
And has been for decades. As people
living there and -
as historians have verified.
Hence the current conflict.

Just to let you know - there are many Palestinians
who do not support the murderous rampages of Hamas.
They do not support the wholesale slaughter of
civilians any more than any of us would. And the
same goes for Jews who do not support the actions
of their Zionist government.

Anyone who thinks otherwise unfortunately assigns
sentiments to both Jews and Arabs based on
harmful stereotypes. Most of us have always believed in
the right of Israel to exist as a separate entity however
we can also see that Palestinians certainly have the
right to feel desperately occupied, aggrieved and angry.

Anyone watching the TV News channels can see for themselves
the dire situation. And blaming just one side is simply
wrong.

You know why I'm not keen on religions?

Jewish religious prophecy says in the Messianic age, Jews will rule the world and make gentiles their slaves.

Look up 'Messianic age', 'Moshiach' and 'Noahide Laws'.
Why do you think there's stories like this:

First red heifer in 2000 years fulfills Biblical prophecy and signals ‘end of days'
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/first-red-heifer-in-2000-years-fulfills-biblical-prophecy-and-signals-end-of-days/ar-AA1gzsvK

Why are looking for the unblemished red heifer and aim to rebuild the temple of Solomon?
- Messianic Age.

I don't want to be ruled over by Islamists either.
Who here wants to be ruled over by religious theocracy?
Do we need another referendum?

And the Christians... they're so dumb that they'd blindly help Israel bring forth the Messianic Age...
- And just as a side note here that means ARMAGEDDON, or Malhama in Islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Malhama_Al-Kubra

They're so dumb that they'd willfully consign the world to total destruction...
- In the hope the Jesus returns in their lifetimes.

That's how stupid it all is.

And as for US wars in the world, to which I oppose sanctions and overthrows (told you all many times before, sanctions are collective punishment and overthrows are a different form of Imperialism or conquest)
- what do you people know about the Neoconservatives?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_conservatism
"Neoconservatism is an American political movement that formed in opposition to the New Left. Many American Jewish conservatives either identify personally or have been categorized as Neoconservative;
Some Jewish conservatives in the west, especially those in the United States, ally themselves with conservative Christians under the perception of shared Judeo-Christian values.

Do you people even know anything about the world we all live in?

Here's their 'shared values':

Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran - "Kill them all! wipe them off the face of the earth"

What do you think this is all about?
Chilling letter written 150 years ago predicted both world wars and a third battle against Islamic leaders
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/chilling-letter-written-150-years-ago-predicted-both-world-wars-and-a-third-battle-against-islamic-leaders/news-story/e266a72972815e53e9c7aab009778796

I didn't make any of this up, but what's a regular Joe supposed to make of it?

Yeah yeah... move along nothing to see here AC's gone on another 'conspiracy rant'...

- Whatever -

AC,

This shouldn't be this hard for you.

I wrote that there never was a Palestinian state and that a people called Palestinians were an invention from the 1960s.

You tried to dispute that by drawing a comparison with aboriginals. But I agreed there was never an aboriginal state and that the idea of an aboriginal people was a recent invention. (Just for clarification, prior to white settlement aboriginals didn't consider themselves part of a vast aboriginal diaspora - indeed most didn't even know of other tribes apart from their immediate neighbours.)

BUT you then went off on some idiotic tangent with "What are you [mhaze] saying there, that people in Gaza are less than human beings in your eyes?" Saying there was never a Palestinian people doesn't mean I think they weren't people. That's just a dumb, indeed illiterate, leap of logic.

Let me try to make it easier for you. Prior to the 1960s there were a people who lived in the Levant who considered themselves Arabs. Then, for political purposes they decided it would suit their aims to call themselves Palestinian AND claim the land they wanted as Palestinian.

eg PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein said this in 1977:

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism."

As I've observed with you before, if you only read one side of the issue you only understand one side of the issue.

Hi AC,

We may be on different sides of the fence politically, but I agree, religious fundamentalism is extremely dangerous. As the Old Man said; "A bloke who believes God is on his side, also believes he can do no wrong, no matter what wrong he does." How true is that!

Another quote from the PLO...

"For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."