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Netanyahu Declares War.

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Dear Foxy,

«This has been caused as a result of Palestinian anger...»

Yes, I understand this anger: people typically get angry when they fail to get what they want or to avoid what they do not want, but if you are among those who subscribe to this philosophy that angry people are justified in killing innocent others at random just because they are angry, then I should indeed be very afraid to come near you.

«which
was mounted with Israel carrying out the deadliest crackdown
for years in the West Bank and its right-wing government
talking of seizing even more land.»

I am upset about it too, and so are nearly half the Israelis - but I don't go around killing babies because of that.

«A peace process meant to create a Palestinian State a
decade ago collapsed - which Palestinian leaders say left the
population with no hope, strengthening extremists.»

Exactly, so why did these leaders, first Arafat then Abu Mazen, leave the peace talks just at the point when Israel offerred them 97% of their land plus compensation for the other 3%?

They literally left, entered their cars without warning and drove away.

Why?

- Because they never really wanted peace, because peace with Israel would mean democratic elections where they would be ousted!

«Miriam Margolyes knows Israel's history very well.»

She may know about recent history, but from the quote of hers that you presented, it seems that she had no clue about early Zionism, including the writings of Theodor Herzl and even the revisionist Ze'ev Zabotinsky, who wanted the local Arabs to participate as equal partners in the Zionist project.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 13 October 2023 5:01:48 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

I do find it depressing that Israel squandered the opportunity to set the Westbank apart. To progress that part of Palestine in order to show the Gazans that recognising and working with Israel had real and lasting advantages thus moving them away from a fascist organisation like Hamas.

Instead the continued illegal settlements the killings continued, the subjugation, the check points, the dispossession continued unabated.

At least Gazans have prevented that.

It will be interesting to see if once again Netanyahu glaims the right to take more of the Westbank as a result of the latest killings. He has certainly done it before.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 13 October 2023 6:09:44 PM
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Dear SteeleRedux,

I agree.

«I do find it depressing that Israel squandered the opportunity to set the Westbank apart.»

Maybe now they will, I pray, now that the Israeli government also includes members of the opposition and no longer tightly depends on Ben Gvir and his Nazi companions.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 13 October 2023 6:24:50 PM
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http://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1712729309104730163
Israeli strikes on the Mokhabarat (intelligence) complex in the Gaza Strip
(Levels a dozen 14 story buildings in 10 seconds)

http://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1712564300429038073
Absolutely incredible how Israel can just post pics of major war crimes on here daily and nobody says or does anything.
Context: Israeli Air Force - Dozens of fighter jets and helicopters attacked a series of terrorist targets of the Hamas terrorist organization throughout the Gaza Strip.
So far, the IAF has dropped about 6,000 bombs against Hamas targets.

http://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1712575252625080615
This is what Israel is doing in Gaza (More dead kids and toddlers)

http://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1712458867446305139
Israeli settlers share videos teasing Palestinians inside #Gaza, who have been denied access to water, electricity, and internet by Israel.

http://twitter.com/utdshows/status/1712493467773915363
This Palestine boy deserves an Oscar award
(This will go viral)

http://twitter.com/KimJongwins/status/1712501897851003031
After indiscriminate Israeli occupation force bombing. Palestinians rush to find survivors. They hear the cry of a baby and use their bare hands to shift rubble.
They find the baby alive but injured. Saved by its dead mothers embrace!

http://twitter.com/oyoo_habib/status/1712677899734552671
I have a genuine question. Is being Pro-Palestine same as being pro-Hamas. Is being pro-Israel same as supporting genocide of Palestinians? It looks like things are twisted in this Israeli-Hamas conflict. Is it Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

http://twitter.com/dana916/status/1712647958078853210
"Netanyahu is finished" - journalist Seymour Hersh
"He's a dead man walking. He will only stay in office until the shooting stops. Maybe another month or two," Hersh wrote.

http://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1712605328477704567
Israel now has used white phosphorus in military operations in Gaza and Lebanon, putting civilians at risk of serious and long-term injuries.
White phosphorus causes excruciating burns and can set homes afire. Its use in populated areas is unlawful. - Human Rights Watch

http://twitter.com/TorahJudaism/status/1712517806443438546
Israel has certainly become a country where Antisemitism is on the rise. Zionists are constantly attacking Jews mercilessly. See how a Zionist official brutally attacked a Jewish man.
Zionism is a new form of Antisemitism today.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 13 October 2023 7:20:30 PM
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For the first time since the Yom Kippur war, an Alef40 order has been given in Israel, meaning that the military must be guided by military considerations only, without asking the political leadership for permission. Look out Hamas. They are coming for you.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 13 October 2023 10:22:14 PM
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Disgusting! It has now been confirmed by reliable sources that thousands of rockets fired into Israel by Hamas were manufactured in United States of America, and siphoned off by Ukrainian criminals, then on sold to Hamas. America in its rush to arm Ukraine to attack the Russians exercised no oversight into where their missiles ended up. Seems many were fired at, and killed innocent civilians in Israel. When you have an ally like America, the greatest arms dealer in the world, who needs enemies!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 13 October 2023 10:28:04 PM
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