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The Nays have it.

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It's like voting for gays to marry and we get transmen getting pregnant and trans women in women's sport, and a hundred genders or non-genders, or men marrying crocodiles. The Uluru agenda end is not revealed, and the vote will fail if it is. Does anyone aboriginal promoting the Voice in need of financial equality or is it they want power to govern over their identified tribal lands, waterways, and beaches? The ABC and SBS continually tell us we are on aboriginal tribal lands - they are promoting the YES case.

If you listen to Thomas Mayor who proposed the voice, he sees the voice as the first step in the Uluru program toward Marxist communism with elders ruling Australia. The Voice is just the beginning of aboriginal rule and their gaining of full sovereignty. The British system of Westminster Democratic government, is he believes, has destroyed the land and waters and not till aboriginal elders take control aboriginal sovereignty is not fully restored. Their fight to gain full control of their land has just begun. Always was and always will be aboriginal land.
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 2 July 2023 2:56:57 PM
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It is unfortunate that people like Foxy did not live in aboriginal culture before 1788 and see all these amazing advantages she raves about. Aboriginals did not discover fire; humans universally have been using fire for thousands of years to melt rock and sand in construction of iron tools and glazing in buildings etc. They have been constructing houses out of cut stone for thousands of years. Aboriginals could not construct houses out of clay and straw which was available to them as the Africans did. Colonization has lifted the standard of their lives equal to any first world country. Yet they want to live in dust and smoke and paint themselves with clay as this represents a 60,000 year old culture.
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 2 July 2023 3:21:28 PM
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Kemmerer Gazette, 9/7/20.

When the enemies of freedom come, they cannot devour an entire people by direct power. They must first divide before they can conquer. Division can be created in two ways: hatred and fear. 

Hatred is created by inventing ever-new categories of people, and setting them against one another. That’s the essence of identity politics.

Once stripped of unity, people are easier to manipulate with fear. 
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 2 July 2023 3:35:57 PM
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Josephus,

Your posts are beginning to worry me.
A big part of Nazi ideology was to define the enemy
and those who posed a threat to the already
established white "superior" way of life.

Nazi propaganda was essential in promoting myths and
identifying those who should be excluded. A number of
groups were targeted as enemies.

The campaigns were particularly effective in inciting
hatred or cultivating indifference to it.
This is not something that any of us would want or should
encourage here. You need to stop posting nonsense.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 July 2023 3:50:08 PM
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History is clear that in 1939, Stalin and Hitler were
allies against the free people of Europe. They were both, by
then accomplished killers, even though Stalin led the
score in victims tortured, starved, and massacred.

Each created panic and chaos throughout Europe. Each produced
millions of refugees and homeless.
Each was expanding and building concentration
camps in which millions of innocent victims
would perish.
Both were set on their conquests. The two dictators used the same
methods to deal with their opposition - terror.

We, as a country can learn to raise the bar for all our people
and live in peace and ensure that no one is disadvantaged.
Especially our First People.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 July 2023 4:04:52 PM
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why some people
are finding it so hard to give our Indigenous people what they
are asking.
Foxy,
You haven't a clue what they're asking !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 2 July 2023 5:29:37 PM
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