Hi AC,

I wish that Russia could perform such miracles as you allude to, but I suspect that Prigozhin had it summed up pretty well. It was a war intended to enrich Russian kleptocrats and justified to the Russian people with lies. It is a mess that has destroyed much of Ukraine and killed hundreds of thousands on both sides. As for Russia being able to match the industrial output of the rest of the world, that sounds improbable.

I suspect that Prigozhin will be busy behind the scenes garnering support for his next coup attempt.

It's hard to know what Prigozhins true intentions were, whether he was simply going after Shoigu and Gerasimov, or whether it was a real attempt to unseat Putin and put himself in the Kremlin.

Some of the things he's said and done over the past few months make the latter seem quite possible, whether he simply wanted changes in the MOD or whether he was compromised or siding with Ukraine and the west.

There seem to be people making valid arguments for both positions, and I'm not exactly sure what the truth is.

AC,

Where did you get the info that 245 Ukrainian tanks were destroyed? From some Russian propaganda mouthpiece, I guess. Funny how they make these claims with zero evidence produced.

Also, funny how the Ukrainian army having been completely destroyed several times is still beating the snot out of the Russian front lines and taking more territory.

Apparently, Putin and all his cronies fled Moscow when Wagner drew near.

Russia is losing this war.

"Where did you get the info that 245 Ukrainian tanks were destroyed? From some Russian propaganda mouthpiece, I guess. Funny how they make these claims with zero evidence produced."

Putin said it.

http://www.rt.com/russia/578418-putin-ukraine-offensive-odds/

“Oddly enough, it is a slow burn at the moment, because the enemy is sustaining serious personnel and equipment losses,” Putin said. “As of early this morning, our men had taken out 245 tanks and about 678 armored vehicles of various types, to say nothing of the enemy’s casualties, which are substantial.”

"Also, funny how the Ukrainian army having been completely destroyed several times is still beating the snot out of the Russian front lines and taking more territory."

Nothing of any significant consequence, in some places Russia has taken more territory, and the Prigozhin mutiny did nothing to change the military situation in Ukraine's favour, it's actually strengthened the Russian militarily and politically.

Prigozhin actually did them a favour by giving Russia an opportunity to cut out a cancer.

"Apparently, Putin and all his cronies fled Moscow when Wagner drew near."
- Likely Ukrainian propaganda, but you would be one to believe it.

Russia is losing this war.
- Yes SM... and pigs fly backwards to Antarctica each year on their annual migration.

Ukraine lost 80,000 troops defending Bakhmut and they still lost that city, and now their counter offensive has been a complete failure too.

All their big grandstanding about the coming successful counteroffensive are complete bs.
It was a complete debacle as many people predicted.
(Though not the ones who parrot a narrative on our TV channels)

'Brittle' (referring to Russian military)
- How many times have I heard that word repeated like a cracked record on the news?
Listen closely and you'll hear it spoken here first from retired 4 star Gen. David Petraeus here:
http://youtu.be/L3qCYIPaPqU
7th June - General Petraeus: The spring offensive will be 'much more successful' than many think
- You're all just buying into a parroted narrative, in complete contract to what actually happened.

These people are idiots, they don't even know when spring is in Ukraine.
- Fyi, Spring in Ukraine is March, April and May, it's now the end of June.
Counter offensive - went so bad they had to call it off due to excessive losses.

I don't know what the hell you people are smoking, honestly.
(This makes me think of a song actually, I'll share it in a sec)
You lot are getting by purely on propaganda and wishful thinking.
Russia will continue to grind down the Ukrainian military, until they're no longer able to mount any kind of defense, and then the whole entire house of cards (along with all the bs including yours SM) will collapse in on itself.

It's only a matter of time.
Ukraine has no chance.

Cheech & Chong - Lost Due to Incompetence (Theme For A Big Green Van)
http://youtu.be/9S7AMveTOLQ

3m10s
"Attention all units, attention all units
This is Sargent Stadanko, attention all units this is Sargent Stadanko
We are changing from a code 3 direct pursuit, to a code 347
Completely lost due to incompetance"