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The thin Red Line

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Ukraine had 26000 KIA and 1244 tank and armoured vehicle losses since the counter offensive began a little over a month ago.

Also it's had 300 - 350 thousand KIA since the conflict began, and probably just as many seriously injured (unable to return to combat)

And now they are largely out of weapons, scraping the bottom of the barrel and NATO is unwilling to enter the war, firstly they are scared of escalating the conflict and the optics of Americans and Europeans coming home in coffins (especially with a US election next year) and secondly they do not have the military resources to fight the war anyway.

They would exhaust their military stockpiles completely at a time when they need to keep it on hand in the case of a confrontation with China.

The US promised Ukraine it could provide them with weapons and defend them, but the truth is it can't.
The US government, with an election looming next year and the prospect of a loss to Trump, or even RFK Jnr, will keep on supplying what it can, but I expect they will be looking for a face-saving off-ramp in the coming months.

Ukraine has already lost the war.
It's like putting Peter Brock in a car to race in Bathurst, but only giving him enough fuel for 800 klms, instead of 1000.
The outcome is inevitable.

Ukraine and the west cannot win the war, no matter how much they hope for an alternative outcome.

We're probably looking at a million people dead or maimed.
This is the price of US regime changes.
Is it worth it?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 13 July 2023 10:18:39 AM
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http://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1678156741333209089

"Only thanks to the stupid and 'following orders' majority can the evil minority enforce catastrophic policies."
- That's you SM
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 13 July 2023 10:45:24 AM
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Russian Soldiers Flaunt 'Captured' American Bradley In Ukraine; Send 'Greetings To Zelensky' | Viral
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpTeVrtP9js
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 13 July 2023 3:31:01 PM
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AC,

Only morons would believe the people that have been lying to them continually before and posting their made-up numbers.

That's you AC
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 14 July 2023 11:11:39 AM
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Didn't your liars spend the last year saying the Russians had run out of missiles, were sending human waves (implying they were running out of troops) and that the Russian economy was going the be strangled and Putin ousted?
Didn't they say that Putin blew up Nordstream, then that 5 castaways in the SS Minnow did it, didn't they say Putin attacked it's own prison holding Azov inmates and that Russia would blow up the ZNPP where it's own troops and IAEA are stationed?

They lie as a matter of basic policy, nothing they say can be believed.

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Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 17 July 2023 7:34:06 PM
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Baldrick,

No, they didn't say any of that. Russia is running low on missiles and has to use Iranian drones to fill the gap mainly as most of them are shot down.

Is not in dispute that Russia was using human wave attacks. It led to massive Russian casualties.

The Russian economy is being slowly strangled with oil and gas revenues halved and a budget deficit of about US$60bn so far for 2023 according to Russia's central bank.

I see that in the last few days, the Kerch bridge was damaged and a massive ammo store in Ukraine was destroyed and Russians had to evacuate 2000 people.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 20 July 2023 11:07:22 AM
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