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Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 15 April 2023 6:19:21 PM
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Thanks Cherful, ShadowMinister, Josephus, David F, Armchair Critic, O Sung Wu, GY, some others for your useful comments here.
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 16 April 2023 6:48:50 AM
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CM,
Do you think you gain something by thanking those you simply agree with, like some school headmaster. A fair question from me, the fact you incessantly bang on about "Communists" on this forum, but when asked to name names, of those of influence in Australia you consider "Communists", you say nothing. YOU don't know of any, do you. Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 16 April 2023 8:29:07 AM
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I found this on the net.
“Communism" is an umbrella term that encompasses a range of ideologies. The term's modern usage originated with Victor d'Hupay, an 18th-century French aristocrat who advocated living in "communes" in which all property would be shared, and "all may benefit from everybody's work." The idea was hardly new even at that time, however: the Book of Acts describes first-century Christian communities holding property in common according to a system known as koinonia, which inspired later religious groups such as the 17th-century English "Diggers" to reject private ownership.” The soviet version became a tyranny, but communism, itself, had a noble beginning. “"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (German: Jeder nach seinen Fähigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedürfnissen) is a slogan popularised by Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Programme. The principle refers to free access to and distribution of goods, capital and services.” The idea of doing as much as you can for the community and the community helping you according to your needs seems like a good way to live. It is compatible with democracy. Posted by david f, Sunday, 16 April 2023 9:23:16 AM
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Things that work at the scale of the tribe- don't work at other scales- effectively David F seems to be talking about a tribe.
This is indicated by the 100 Million dead under communism. I don't know much about Marx but he seems the worst sort of person- freeloading off and corrupting industrialist Engels- himself a womanizer, avoiding his responsibilities for the factory, etc. At least Marx seemed faithful to Mary even if absent. There is interesting work in psychology that talks about the number of people we conceptualize in our minds as part of our tribe. (Generally I don't think much of the profession of psychology.) This is interesting... http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/12/19/why-be-concerned-about-the-memorial-to-the-victims-of-communism-controversy-in-canada/ http://www.theepochtimes.com/remember-the-100-million-victims-of-communism_2556839.html Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 16 April 2023 11:13:00 AM
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Dear Canem Malum,
I am well aware of the victims of Communism and have written about them in the following: https://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12693 I am also aware of the millions of victims of Christianity in the wars of the Reformation, the struggles between different brands of Christianity in the fifth century with the eventual triumph of the Roman brand, the millions martyred or forced into slavery by Christian imperialism, the martyrs to Christian intolerance in the Inquisition and the culmination of Christian hatred in the Nazi Holocaust. The Nazi excesses were the logical outcome of Christian inspired hate. Christianity has also inspired caring and compassion. Like communism Christianity is a mixed bag. Both Christianity and communism have committed grave atrocities and have had noble beginnings. They both have tribal aspects. Posted by david f, Sunday, 16 April 2023 11:46:03 AM
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Golden opportunity to name, names!