Denny

This will be my final post on this thread.

I find your faux moral outrage repugnant, that you care more about a foetus than you do about the wellbeing of a nine year old girl or any living breathing female is indicative of an inability to see all sides of vexing issues.

Therefore, you hold an equally dogmatic position on Father Kennedy and the essence of what he was trying to with with his church - which was exactly as Jesus was reported to have done - open, inclusive and compassionate.

I leave you to your dogma.

Dear Fractelle,

Come on now...you are quite over the top about this Father Kennedy's
Church! There would not be a Christian or Catholic Church in Australia that is not what you claim Father Kennedy's Church to be ..."open,inclusive and compassionate" You don't have to sit around in jeans to prove you're a follower of Christ as some seem to suggest on the OLO piece! Yes, Jesus not only kept company with sinners...He loved them! Loved them enough to ask them ..for their own good...to 'sin no more' There's the rub with "inclusivists" today..anything goes and they do not like to be reminded that there is such a thing as sin and the Church is obliged to speak out against it..as did Christ. We all need to be reminded of our propensity to sin...myself included...as well as God's infinite forgiveness.

Denny

Denny, there are many people in the world who don’t believe in a god, and I’m one of them. The outpouring of guilt and shame heaped upon anyone who has had an abortion is criminal. How can you possibly know the circumstances of every woman who has either contemplated or actually had an abortion?

The evolutionary reality that all species sprang from the same ancient sea makes it obvious (to me) that all the rules and regulations in society today regarding human bodies are man made. The idea that you are killing a human baby when you terminate fertilized eggs is an irrational man made learned response.

The termination of fertilized eggs happens in every species. Females from all species will spontaneously abort if the conditions to carry and rear their young are not right. In the case of humans, abortion has been happening right throughout our history, when and if the woman decides that the conditions are not right, mostly secretly because of all the man made rules of control. Why do some people think that human eggs are different and special compared to other species eggs? Why do we eat other species eggs without a second thought?

All females of all species are born with many more eggs than can be fertilised and carried to term by one body in one lifetime. All males of all species are born with the ability to produce many millions of sperm that cannot come to fruition in one lifetime no matter how many females he may attempt to impregnate. What could be the reason for that?

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Seems to me if you put each human egg and sperm on a pedestal and give them special status, you are deluding yourself into believing that every egg and every sperm, from the moment they meet and greet each other inside the woman’s body is a fully fledged human, which they cannot possibly be. They are not yet a living breathing human no matter which way you look at it, and thousands more eggs lie waiting unfertilized in the adult female for future months and future sperm coming their way.

An egg arrives in the womb every single month of a female’s life from the beginning of menstruation up until menopause – roughly 30 - 40 years. Why is there this over abundance of eggs? To personify them before they are capable of living is delusional in my opinion. To take the decision to continue with a pregnancy or not away from the woman is cruel and unusual punishment.

Emotional responses to this issue have their origins in guilt and punishment...and I think we are all aware of where that came from.

Can the female of our species please have her body back; she’d like to decide for herself what is best for it?

>>There would not be a Christian or Catholic Church in Australia that is not
>> what you claim Father Kennedy's Church to be ..."open,inclusive and compassionate"

sure. as long as you follow a set of intrusive, arbitrary rules. remind me, denny, why exactly is homosexuality a sin? see if you can answer with reason, rather than appealing to long-dead authority.

Dear Bushbasher,
My understanding of why homosexuality is a sin is
1. It does not produce life.
2. It is an unnatural act.
3. Some homosexuals are that way as a result of RAPE by an ADULT male.
4. God loves the person BUT hates the sin because people with potential fall short of their destiny because of SIN.
5. Unbelief does not change sin and its effects , you only kid yourself.