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By Jim Toohey, published 3/3/2009Why the Catholic Church’s objection to having its teachings misrepresented by Father Kennedy is apparently such an outrage, is not clear.
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Posted by Kenny, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 7:58:22 PM
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What I'd really like to know is does
Father Kennedy teach (or practice) anything that goes against the teachings of Christ? And if so, what exactly? Or is it only the fear and prejudice of the Church's hierarchy (frightened men) that he's threatening? A priest that attracts over 800 into his Church must be doing something right - surely? Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 9:25:44 PM
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The Dunamis Christian Centre (sorry if I got its name wrong - I haven't lived in the area for a while), also on Brisbane's Southside, also attracts huge numbers. Huge enough that I have seen parking directors controlling the parking lots to fit the enormous crowds in.
The Dunamis Christian Centre is also not Catholic. Catholicism is probably quite out of touch with many Australians. It works for me, but I am only one person. What Dunamis does, and what Kennedy does, works for an enormous number of people. Good on them. But what they do isn't Catholic. What they teach isn't Catholic and what they believe isn't Catholic. For that reason, perhaps they need to follow in the footsteps of the other Protestant faiths and step outside the Church. If the broader community values what they do, then funding isn't a problem - and, at present, the only benefits St Mary's is getting from the Catholic Church is funding and a building to meet in. Perhaps it is time to part ways - then Kennedy can run his own religion as he sees fit, free of the constraints of Catholic doctrine. Posted by Otokonoko, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:37:22 PM
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toohey oughta look up the definition of "authoritarian".
Posted by bushbasher, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 11:26:14 PM
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I think Foxy asks a very pertinent question - Is the good father teaching anything away from Christ's teachings?
If one was to take the Bible literally the answer is Yes. If one was to apply unbigoted intellect to the Bible the answer is NO! In 1 Timothy 11-12 Paul, not Jesus - tells women to be quiet and doesn't allow them to teach! A single man inflicting his will over an entire gender! Amazing! Jesus wouldn't have said that about women! But many of our churches still believe it with gay abandon - No women teachers/priests! But the Bible does create some problems for Father Kennedy when it is deciphered poorly. Churches have always had problems with homosexuality when it suited them. Does it suit them if what this article alleges is true? I don't recall Mr Twoomey addressing this issue whatsoever. http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,25083343-3102,00.html Do Churches ever run to their victims first like Jesus would have done? Do they run to their lawyers first before beginning the great coverup? Would Jesus do that? Is the 11th commandment "Thou shalt coverup quickly"? Ha! I have trouble when the Churches start lecturing on morality, the bible and church laws. Is leading by example one of their strengths? But back to poor Father Kennedy - and his alleged fight with the might of the Catholic church. Please see http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2572 for reference and then apply it to Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." See what the Catholic online Bible says http://www.catholic.org/bible/book.php?id=3 How does a man have intercourse with a man "the same way as he does a woman"? Catholics please explain? Also who will do the killing? Is it true the good father blesses gay partnerships? OMG he blesses a loving relationship - how unChristian! Excommunicate LOVE! Paul gets ruffled in Romans 1:26-27 but Paul oppresses women (see above) so I don't listen to him much! Posted by Opinionated2, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 12:35:16 AM
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Pathetic political squabbles. Arguing over the Bible is little more than arguing over tea leaves or the shapes of clouds.
Nazis have used it, so did the crusades, so did Bush and Howard. In the US they say "Jesus Hates Fags" and use it to justify mass murder. for decades it has been used to justify almost any sin ('cause forgiveness is just a donation away!) It can be used to justify great Good (which comes from our hearts anyway) and the biggest evil (which it labels on it's enemies). Lets all agree that bigoted ignorance is Bad Thing and anyone who claims to have Gods word is to be treated with utmost suspicion. You cannot make up the Truth and just declare it to everyone: Not now, nor 2000 years ago. Science works. Transparent societies work. Religion is a failed ideology. Like most flat-earth culture it will hang around...but please can we stop giving it any authority? I'd rather my cat made important decisions for me than a religious minded person. Posted by Ozandy, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 1:16:55 PM
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What the right wing of the church doesn't seem to get is the rest of us see a church where dogma is far more important than community. At a time when your letting Nazi’s back into the church ( you can't call Godwin it's true) your kicking out someone who is showing love and compassion for his fellow man.