The Arab nations initiated four wars against Israel:
· 1948 War of Independence
· 1956 Sinai War
· 1967 Six Day War
· 1973 Yom Kippur War
Israel defended itself each time and won. After each war, the Israeli army withdrew from most of the areas it captured.

I think it is a long bow to draw that the Palestinian grievances and suicide bombers stem from being humiliated by border guards strip searches.

Perhaps what is more of a humiliation is that Israel, with a population of about 8 million, has defeated Arab nations with much bigger populations, especially when it is those nations that launched war against Israel.

However, it is time, don’t you think, for the Palestinians to realize that they would be better off to move on and get over this humiliation, and try to live in peace with Israel, instead of electing Islamist gangster terrorists like Hamas?

They would probably find a huge increase in their standard of living. There are plenty of States and City-States with a greater population density than Gaza, who nevertheless do very well economically and don’t sponge off the International community. continued...

It is difficult to argue objectively any virtue of war when the argument of women and Children are killed – but the emotive reasoning of reporting these things and not actually stating the circumstances of Civilian – Women and children casualties , - used as shields to protect the Weapons firing position; purely to gain the Useless Idiot emotional opinion.
The Useless Idiots or “U N”, well. A whole new level of psychology at work here , that’s why the Acronym of “U N “ -Useless Idiots is authentic in it acclaimed position.

If you actually think about it for a moment and invoke some philosophical perspectives;
Who said this:-
“We can forgive them for murdering our children, but we cannot forgive them for making us murder their children.”- In context.
And as far as Sexual harassment of women by border guards; Fairdinkum Survivor, you are actually talking about the Middle East – are you?
An Ideology that has women stoned to death for being raped, and “Women “- whom are purely used as human weapons procreation.
You would do well proselytizing your concerns in a Moslem Democracy I think; and for a mere moment, you can realize how ridicules you notion is- and yet for a mere moment - I realise , No you won't.

"History cannot be deceived, and
it is impossible to conceal something
from it forever."
- Anatoli Kuznetsov.

"Do you want democracy? No problem.
Either abandon the greater land of
Israel, to the last settlement and
outpost, or give full citizenship
and voting rights to everyone, including
Arabs.

The result, of course, will be that
those who did not want a Palestinian
state alongside us will have one in
our midst, via the ballot box. The
prime minister should present the choices
forthrightly: Jewish racism or democracy.
Settlements, or hope for both parties."
(Avraham Burg, 15 Sept. 2003).

SOCIALIST ALTERNATIVE SUPPORT FOR TERRORISM.

http://www.sa.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1876&Itemid=125

From their web site. (Oh how I pray the AFP are monitoring them)

1/ Praise for genocidal Hamas.

The militant spirit that animates the millions who follow Hezbollah and Hamas is WHOLLY POSITIVE. It embodies the defiant anti-imperialist determination to resist that has dogged the imperial overlords of the Middle East for almost 100 years.

(COMMENT: Err... yes.. positive like 'Muslims must kill the Jews' in Hamas Charter! If I'm not mistaken..to say such things is a crime no?)

2/ MORAL SUPPORT FOR TERRORISM.

<But it is impossible to defeat US imperialism (and therefore Israel) by military means alone.>

3/ MORAL SUPPORT FOR TERRORISM -PERIOD.

We in Australia will not play the decisive role in creating such new organisations. Nonetheless it will not be an insignificant contribution IF WE CAN BUILT A SOCIALIST MOVEMENT HERE THAT CAN OFFER SOLIDARITY AND SUPPORT TO THE NEXT GENERATION OF MILITANTS IN THE ARAB WORLD whose political consciousness is being formed by the horrific injustices and heroic resistance that characterise the Middle East today.

TRUE COLORS OF AUSTRALIAN SOCIALISTS. "Militant/Terrorism supporters"

Froggie “However, it is time, don’t you think, for the Palestinians to realize that they would be better off to move on and get over this humiliation, and try to live in peace with Israel, instead of electing Islamist gangster terrorists like Hamas?”

Wholly agree with your entire post.

The next thing is they will demand someone give an an official apology, a “Sorry”

but somehow I cannot see any Israeli politicians falling for that scam.

It is only spineless Aussie spruikers who go around declaring “sorry” for supposed wrongs inflicted upon the ancestors of current minorities. Real Aussie politicians had the courage of their convictions and declined at every turn (good on ya Johnny).

Polycarp “Socialist Alternative” is a mouth piece for the dilitant underperformer possessing just enough sense to understand they lack the where-with-all to achieve in the main stream, so they pursue a counter cultural agenda, in which reward from ones own honest effort and ability is divorced.

It would not be so bad if they actually had an ‘alternative’. The problem is, what they promote has been seen to fail and fail and fail again.
It is entire logical and reasonable, therefore, that they would support terrorist organizations like hamas, with it is counter-cultural, counter productive and well-spring of excuses for the mayhem and murder in which all personal accountability is lost.

Bren Carlill's article is titled Hypocrisy and the War in Gaza. Bren complains about hypocrisy in public commentary, and compares the difference in fatalities in the Congo in the past 10 years with deaths attributable to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict over the last 60 years or so. He sharply criticises Greg Barns, who wrote an earlier On Line Opinion piece (West Weak While Palestinians Pay - 6 January).
Bren is "a writer and policy analyst at the Australia/Israel & Jewish Affairs Council." The aijac.org.au website says, "The Australia/Israel & Jewish Affairs Council (AIJAC) is the premier public affairs organisation for the Australian Jewish community."

A visit to gregbarns.com identifies him as an "Australian writer and political commentator who has previously advised Australian governments on policy."

What is hypocrisy? A Macquarie Concise Dictionary defines it as "(1) The act of pretending to have a character or beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not possess. (2) Pretence of virtue or piety; false goodness."

Are states, such as Israel, or non-state actors, such as the PA or Hamas, or AIJAC capable of hypocrisy? I am saying no. Hypocrisy is a human attribute, and organisations are no more human than Greek Gods, although we do mistakenly anthropomorphise them from time to time.

Where is the hypocritical behaviour? Where are examples of Greg Barns' or Bren Carlill's contradictory behaviour and conflicted values? I find none.

While AIJAC and the US AIPAC are not capable of hypocrisy, they are “public faces”. How does it look to reasonable and unreasonable people, when Colin Rubenstein, CEO of AIJAC, asserts that
"For the civilian deaths, as for the conflict on the whole, Hamas bears full responsibility."
http://www.aijac.org.au/?id=articles&_action=showArticleDetails&articleID=5562

Unreasonable people either agree or disagree, without further consideration; a reasonable person does not mistake a debating proposition for the truth.

AIJAC leadership should know that reasonable people worldwide would not support the Israeli war on Gaza without examining current IDF violations of IHL; or past history, right back to 1948.