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Hypocrisy and the war in Gaza : Comments

By Bren Carlill, published 9/1/2009

For eight years Israeli cities were brutalised by Hamas rockets, but the media took notice only when Israel responded.

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Sur Vivor
I have just watched the video that has got you so steamed up.
Are you for real?
Even if these things had happened as stated, remember that the border between Israel and Gaza is a war zone, largely because of the suicide bombing and rocket attacks by Palestinians.
It is necessary to strip search women as they are constantly used by the Palestinians to carry out suicide bombings in Israel.
You are seriously equating a strip search with a suicide bombing which indiscriminately blows people apart as they go about their daily business?
I think you desperately need to get a sense of proportion, old chap.
Posted by Froggie, Monday, 12 January 2009 6:57:55 AM
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Israeli/Defense-Force:“..Being Cautious Means Being Aggressive”

http://www.infowars.com/?p=7069

Palestinian casualties keep mounting,with fully one-third being children.

Channel 4 UK Report From Gaza

http://www.infowars.com/?p=7056

Meet the children left to die among the bodies of their parents and families.

Gaza officials: Massive sewage flood imminent

http://www.infowars.com/?p=7071

..Due to the ongoing Israeli invasion of Gaza,nearly 700,000 Palestinians have gone without water for days,and sewage pumping systems have stopped.

Israel tells Gazans to brace for war escalation
http://www.infowars.com/?p=7068

..The Israeli threat to launch a“new phase”in its two-week-old offensive

Israelis Have Abducted Hundreds of Palestinian Youth for“Information”

http://www.infowars.com/?p=7077

Hundreds of Palestinians have become the captives of Israeli forces during the current military operation in the Gaza Strip.

What Do You Know About Gaza?

http://www.infowars.com/?p=7080

essential points ,much of which has taken place in the press,about Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip.

Foreign Press:Israel a“Military Dictatorship”

http://www.infowars.com/?p=7065

Israel running the risk of being portrayed in the same manner as countries such as Burma and Zimbabwe.

Israel’s Dress Rehearsal for Lebanon

http://www.infowars.com/?p=7058

..Israel’s new leaders are expected to take what they’ve learned in Gaza and use it in Lebanon.

Israeli Wiretappers,the NSA,and 9/11
http://www.infowars.com/?p=6983

..The two companies that should be getting extra scrutiny from 9/11 researchers are Amdocs,and NICE Systems...Both have direct links to 9/11 via the milieu known as the“Israeli DEA Groups”.

Ron/Paul on Gaza,Non-Interventionism

http://www.infowars.com/?p=7076

Ron Paul..says the U.S.should not support Israel and mind its own business.

‘Iran aid ship nears Gaza’
http://www.infowars.com/?p=7035

..An Iranian aid ship,..destined for Palestinians,has reportedly entered Egyptian waters and scheduled to dock at the port of Gaza on Saturday.

the Crime of using the depleted uranium against Iraqis
http://www.infowars.com/?p=6971

..The people of Iraq/gaza are very much concerned about the disaster of the depleted uranium,which threatens their lives,health conditions and the future of their coming generations.

‘Key Ally In The War On Terror’Breaks With U.S.,Condemns Israel For Gaza Strikes
http://www.infowars.com/?p=6915

CBS:KBR knowingly exposed troops to toxic dust
http://www.infowars.com/?p=6802

Dick Cheney,knowingly exposed United States soldiers to toxic materials in Iraq

The Secret and(Very)Profitable World of Intelligence and Narcotrafficking[and 9/11]

http://www.infowars.com/?p=6982
Noorzai..profited handsomely from the protection of his Taliban“friends,”his ISI mentors and allegedly the CIA.
Posted by one under god, Monday, 12 January 2009 7:07:57 AM
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Well, the last time I landed in Thailand, “Words used “; I was accosted by 4 Thai police men , who were four foot 8 with a hat, wielding automatic weapons, I am six foot tall , I felt threatened, I was unarmed , apart from a passport and a passenger ticket , so I had to submit, then I arrived in Heathrow where another 3 British Police accosting us, who also armed with automatic weapons; I think I have to undergo some psychiatric counselling now , And we are in the midst of Cultural Cretin attacks , And we are not at war with anyone else ; are we? ;-

Michael Moore has made the picture propaganda wars a bit harder to swallow, and I agree about smelling the dead corpses; but I actually wonder what side you are talking about, Israeli Hospitals are usually full of Palestinians seriously wounded by their own Government, just as a typical daily routine.

But I would guess that this is a public relations stunt? The Zionists are very clever in Media manipulation, obviously not as good as Idiot spherical psychopaths though. That propaganda is swamping everyone.
Posted by All-, Monday, 12 January 2009 7:11:21 AM
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Froggie and others, there is a connection between the behaviour of suicide bombers and their past experiences. I suggest you Google and read the article below, by Scott Atran, then connect the dots.

[PDF] TUNING OUT HELL’S HARPISTS [Scott Atran, November 2004]

hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/docs/00/05/36/11/PDF/ijn_00000564_00.pdf - Similar pages -

Professor Atran writes:
"When a person vows to avenge an insult or humiliation no matter the cost, even if it means losing his own life and shows that he means it with costly and hard-to-fake displays of preparation for attack then anyone planning an insult will think twice before acting. ... Revenge can give even the weak a better chance to survive in the long run."

Humiliation, through abuse of authority, is acknowledged as a source of motivation toward violence. Froggie, perhaps you can think of something relevant in your own past - not meaning that you acted on your dark thoughts.

Political organisations exploit the motive of humiliation and provide the means and opportunity. This exploitation is not limited to Islamist militant organisations, nor does it inevitably lead to suicide bombings or enlistment in insurgent resistance forces.

I am satisfied that Israeli government policy and complicity allow this particular sick, sad injustice to prevail.

For anyone to justify cruel, stupid, perverted behaviour by border guards, by saying "the border between Israel and Gaza is a war zone" puts them on the same level as the person who gets away with filthy behaviour in an official capacity.
Posted by Sir Vivor, Monday, 12 January 2009 8:52:42 AM
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Sir Ivor.... you are looking at the microscopic and trying to justify the MACROcroscopic.

Im genuinely curious... how would you react to some family near you, who wrote a declaration "Sir Ivor's family exists and will continue to exist until WE obliterate them"?

I suppose you would call the police ? but then.. they would say "Until a crime is committed, we can't do anything" So..you go back and endure the constant stone throwing..the molotif cocktails hurled at your house.. of course you can't prove it was 'them' so.. the police still cannot help.

In Israels case.. do you feel that the HAMAS CHARTER to obliterate Israel is something which can be negated simply by a few stories about strip searching?

If you do think that, in the light of the Holocaust, then..old son.. get help... real quick, because you need it.

The cry of every critic of the war there SHOULD be..

HAMAS..WHEN will you renounce your genocidal charter?

But Ivory.. they could not do that, because it is a very theologically correct document Islamically speaking. They would not do it..because Islam does call for that. You doubt me? read surah 9
Read especially verses 29 and 30

http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe009.htm

You might like to have a peek at the very first verse too.. yep.. and then compare the Hamas 'declaration that the cease fire is over' with what Mohammad 'declared' in that chapter.

If ur really adventurous.. you could look at verse 5

5. Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islâmic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikűn (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and give Zakât, then leave their way free. Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Notice how it works ? "We will kill you wherever we find you.. OH..WAIT.. If you become Muslims.. ok.. then we won't kill you"
Posted by Polycarp, Monday, 12 January 2009 1:54:55 PM
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Surrender is the best and only option that 'Palestinians' must take:

The Palestinians need to surrender in the current conflict, for fighting an unwinnable war only raises the costs their long-suffering people face.
Latest article on the 'Palestinians' from Sir Wellington Boote:

http://www.henrythornton.com/article.asp?article_id=5571
Posted by Uncle Pete, Monday, 12 January 2009 2:31:41 PM
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