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Hypocrisy and the war in Gaza : Comments
By Bren Carlill, published 9/1/2009For eight years Israeli cities were brutalised by Hamas rockets, but the media took notice only when Israel responded.
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Posted by bushbred, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 1:46:19 PM
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No takers on the rest of the speech?
Well; - We can forgive them for killing our children – but we cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children- There will never be peace with Arabs until they learn to love their children, and love them more than they hate us. And that is about the central crux of the whole entire epic , and not just isolated to Israel. And there lay the axiom of the motivation of Ideology, they despise and hate success with absolute psychopathic passion. And that is where the Socialists of any Ideological Idiocy join the band wagon of haters; They are far too lazy to achieve anything at all at their own abillities ,other than polifiration of propaganda , it is easier to steal others property and efforts to live off - in turn,whome their own hoasts they so despise. Posted by All-, Thursday, 15 January 2009 7:34:27 AM
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Like so many others around the world, I know very little of the Israeli Knesset. A Finnish news release paints a gloomy picture - see below.
What little I do know suggests to me that it is weak and rudderless, a tiny sailboat of democracy, easily blown about by the winds of geopolitics. That it is unable to navigate a safe path, because the crew is made up of hostile and self-absorbed factions, some of which support what I would call very stupid, careless policies. Perhaps Bren Carlill or someone else can direct me to a site that offers a more edifying view of Israeli democracy in action. http://www.ksml.fi/mielipide/keskustelu/demokraattinen-israel/333485 "Demokraattinen" Israel Democracy in a panic By Avirama Golan Tags: Israel elections, Israel News ”Even if the Supreme Court overturns the unfortunate decision by the [Israeli] Central Elections Committee to disqualify United Arab List-Ta'al and Balad, enabling them to compete in next month's general election, the damage has already been done and Israeli democracy has been exposed in all its fear and panic. ” … sponsors of the ban on the Arab parties are Avigdor Lieberman and his party, Yisrael Beiteinu, which supports moving Israel's Arab citizens and their communities to the other side of the border and making their civil rights conditional on proof of loyalty, and which enthusiastically supported former Kach leader Baruch Marzel and the head of the extremist World Headquarters to Save the People and Land of Israel (SOS Israel), Rabbi Shalom Dov Wolpe ...” Posted by Sir Vivor, Thursday, 15 January 2009 8:36:23 AM
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Have become truly ashamed at the way not only concerning the national media but the way our OLO has not been using more dinkum historical channels to find the real truth behind the ME Arab Israeli problem.
It is so interesting that it has taken the chief journalist of our only newspaper, the WEST AUSTRALIAN to allow in letter s from veterans revealing the historical stuff-up that caused the melee certainly now getting bloody worse than ever. Talking to the chief journo’ it seems that the three letters from three different old-timers over the last week or so, reveal that the major historical mistake was not so much the break-up not long after WW2 between a victorious US run by an inexperienced Truman, and a penniless UK with its heroic Churchill ousted by Labour, the arrogant Yanks simply ousted the Brits favouring the Jews rather than the Palestinians who had every right to be angry - even more so when the UK focused International plan to grant equal amounts of Palestine to both Jews and Arabs, was thrown out by Truman. Further in a fourth letter from John H May of Collie, he goes on to say - ‘That when one considers the trillions of dollars in arming Israel up to this time, just ten percent of that could have created a Palestinian paradise for both participants along with its subsequent influence on future world peace’ causing a possible WW3. Finally, I’d suggest that not only our not very gallant OLO’s look more to genuine academic historical accounts and less to Murdoch media spin - and might say the same about our management. Weakening Cheers, BB, Buntine, WA Posted by bushbred, Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:51:30 PM
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GDay Bush bred , I don’t think you are going anywhere for a while yet.
I would not be too concerned about the amount of money to arm up Israel , the threat to Israel is very real , It is difficult to substantiate the finances that was spent on weapons for Israel , could have been spent on the Palestinian State , Yes , from an Ideological perspective , but when the Peoples of such a state are not willing to do anything that would make themselves independent of trouble or Tribal warring factions , then all the money to date , and all that was given in the past , only provides weapons , and larger bank balances for the instigators of this whole ridicules conflict. It could have been argued quite successfully that K9 Rudd and his cheque book extravaganza with tax payer’s money , handing it around like it grows on trees , provided many terrorists with the funds to arm themselves back up . You do not actually think that any of the funds , goes to help a single sole in the Palestine or Afghanistan? We just have to accept that the ability of Ideologues to assess the factual situation of what happens ; is only a lesson in absolute feel good freak show and guilt mongering. Deploying a sophist approach only creates more paradigms in a thought process , thus adds, and accelerates a whole new complexity of issues that never could have existed – The premise that is presented as an argument is a falsehood and fabricated – Marxism is that ;- a continued trade mark of Leftoid Psychopaths- a trail of destruction where ever it lurks- like a grim reaper looking for more victims to feast off. Posted by All-, Thursday, 15 January 2009 2:02:33 PM
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But, All, my arguments are based on real history, mate, so as a historian I am feeling real nasty over it.
I guess it's the only way to be for one who has got historical Honours. Really got shocked about it myself becasue it was mostly about learning what colnial bastards we were, basd on the 18-19th Century Tea Economy. Yet going by the way America has spent a flamin' fortune just paying the Israelies to knock out the Arabs, has really got us historians wondering what is the worst, Global Warming or Western White Rhoguery. Posted by bushbred, Thursday, 15 January 2009 4:13:43 PM
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It is so interesting that it has taken the chief journalist of our only newspaper, the WEST AUSTRALIAN to allow in letter s from veterans revealing the historical happening that caused the melee certainly now getting bloody worse than ever.
Talking to the chief journo’ it seems that the three letters from three different old-timers over the last week or so, reveal that the major historical mistake was not so much the break-up between the UK and the US, but that the US after arrogantly ousting the British, failed to carry out the UK plan to grant equal amounts of Palestine to both Jews and Arabs.
Further in a fourth letter from John H May of Collie, he goes on to say -
‘That when one considers the trillions of dollars on arming Israel up to this time, just ten percent of that could have created a Palestinian paradise for both participants along with its subsequent influence on future world peace’.
Finally, I’d suggest that not only our not very gallant OLO’s look to their media and historical facts better, but might say the same about the management.
Cheers, BB, Buntine, WA.