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By Bren Carlill, published 9/1/2009For eight years Israeli cities were brutalised by Hamas rockets, but the media took notice only when Israel responded.
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Posted by Sir Vivor, Thursday, 22 January 2009 3:16:12 PM
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I hope you know Sir vivor that the Chompa is a rebound anarchist, and that has been his coercive linguistics that elevated him to cult hood status ; - And an explanation about the U N , well the last tsunami that ravished Asia a few years ago , well you do realise that most of those Items , including ambulances , are still to this day on the docks to where they arrived ; That is The U N at work , or how it does not work to the point.
But I have tracked down an essay for you Bush bred , ; http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/loftus101106.htm This is the one I mentioned before ; note how Covert things are , but are the best known secrets on the planet. If you know the Google word Posted by All-, Thursday, 22 January 2009 6:24:51 PM
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Googling Alls nomenclature:
"the Chompa": 85 hits along the lines of the item below: "I really dug the Chompa noodles but Yak butter on my toast was just too strong for me. www.cloudlam.com/china.php "Chompa" appears to have been cooked up on the spot, to play the man (Chomsky) and not the argument (war crimes). "coercive linguistics" yielded weird stuff on obscure threads, including a peculiar rave, two years ago, by "All" - All might write A Wikipedia article on "coercive linguistics", for the sake (if not the outcome) of our edification. As for publicist John Loftus' tale of the Muslim Brotherhood, CIA-Nazi connections and the Saudis, it is a red herring. But can All be believed? Regarding "The White Phosphorus is a Hoax", see: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/21/gaza-phosphorus-shells "Israel has admitted – after mounting pressure – that its troops may have used white phosphorus shells in contravention of international law, during its three-week offensive in the Gaza Strip." "One of the places most seriously affected by the use of white phosphorus was the main UN compound in Gaza City, which was hit by three shells on 15 January. The same munition was used in a strike on the al-Quds hospital in Gaza City the same day." "Under review by Colonel Shai Alkalai is the use of white phosphorus by a reserve paratroop brigade in northern Israel." "According to army sources the brigade fired up to 20 phosphorus shells in a heavily built-up area around the Gaza township of Beit Lahiya, one of the worst hit areas of Gaza." If there is a hoax involving WP, it involves no lack of evidence of its use. Stupid, cruel villagers being allowed to masquerade as IDF soldiers, through the ignorance or complicity of their superiors, now there is the seed of a hoax, grown and blossomed into grotesque proportions. How am I to distinguish these IDF soldiers from others? From those who burned and murdered in Lidice, or carpet-bombed over Guernica, or from Hamas soldiers doing their rocket science on Israeli civilians? Am I supposed to distinguish them by the righteousness of their cause? Posted by Sir Vivor, Friday, 23 January 2009 7:14:35 AM
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I do not know what more to say Si r Vivor , other than to make an observation that If White Phosphorous munitions were indeed used , especially in the commodity that you have stated , there would not be much of Israel or the Gaza or Jordan and parts of Egypt left . The death toll would be in the hundreds of millions.
There is some lobotomized moron, who clearly does not have a clue what they are talking about – and warn you not to be so naive, it is not healthy. And the Chompa, well he could be categorised as a Sales Genius – that’s why he is Cashed up and loaded – he clearly knows and understands the nature of his new cult followers, he wrote – worded – and expressed exactly what they wanted to hear; He was and is a linguistic Professor you know; and these very same naive people, made the Chompa Very rich, and his cult following; - very poor – in wealth and Intellectual ability- A good resource for entertainment thoug Posted by All-, Friday, 23 January 2009 8:31:14 AM
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All,
Are you really so confused about white phosphorus munitions? They are incindiary (cause fires). They aren't fissile or radioactive. Why not read the Wikipedia article on WP? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_(weapon). Bren Carlill's piece is about Hypocrisy. Here is more, from Noam Chomsky’s article, “Exterminate all the Brutes": Gaza 2009” http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20316 “Does Israel have peaceful short-term alternatives to the use of force in response to rockets from Gaza[?] One short-term alternative would be to accept a ceasefire. Sometimes Israel has done so, while instantly violating it. The most recent and currently relevant case is June 2008. The ceasefire called for opening the border crossings to "allow the transfer of all goods that were banned and restricted to go into Gaza." Israel formally agreed, but immediately announced that it would not abide by the agreement and open the borders until Hamas released Gilad Shalit, an Israeli soldier captured by Hamas in June 2006.” “The steady drumbeat of accusations about the capture of Shalit is, again, blatant hypocrisy, even putting aside Israel's long history of kidnapping. In this case, the hypocrisy could not be more glaring. One day before Hamas captured Shalit, Israeli soldiers entered Gaza City and kidnapped two civilians, the Muammar brothers, bringing them to Israel to join the thousands of other prisoners held there, almost 1000 reportedly without charge. Kidnapping civilians is a far more serious crime than capturing a soldier of an attacking army, but it was barely reported in contrast to the furor over Shalit. And all that remains in memory, blocking peace, is the capture of Shalit, another reflection of the difference between humans and two-legged [Palestinian] beasts. Shalit should be returned - in a fair prisoner exchange.” “It was after the capture of Shalit that Israel's unrelenting military attack against Gaza passed from merely vicious to truly sadistic. But it is well to recall that even before his capture, Israel had fired more than 7,700 shells at northern Gaza after its September withdrawal, eliciting virtually no comment.” Posted by Sir Vivor, Friday, 23 January 2009 7:10:40 PM
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Thanks Sir Vivor, I must admit that my casualty figures were slightly exaggerated – Must have been a bit of lefti in me.
Now I know that you know what white Phosphorous is; it is a canister with a jelly substance < Non flammable – and it is a pure and simple Anti personnel munitions. I t has not been in service or manufactured as weapon munitions for donkeys years. Not very effective in built up areas , its primary role was to create an area atmospheric condition to stick and hinder infantry; for that very reason it was never used in Gaza or anywhere else. There is a strong probability they used May palm ; considering that the methodology of tunnelling is used by Hamas , and there be a very strong possibility of secondary explosions of Munitions stored in the tunnel system ; That incendiary device is designed for rapid air consumption , normal high explosive device would obliterate a building. Unless you are suggesting Saddams weapon of mass destruction, or a portion there of are held in the tunnel systems in Gaza? Syria would have been my bet. But who knows. I can only give advice when it comes to the Chompa , have a good laugh , and just ignore him. You do know he is Jewish ? Posted by All-, Friday, 23 January 2009 8:10:09 PM
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"Two weeks after the Sabbath opening of the assault, with much of Gaza
already pounded to rubble and the death toll approaching 1000, the
U.N. Agency UNRWA, on which most Gazans depend for survival, announced
that the Israeli military refused to allow aid shipments to Gaza,
saying that the crossings were closed for the Sabbath. To honor the
holy day, Palestinians at the edge of survival must be denied food and
medicine, while hundreds can be slaughtered by U.S. jet bombers and
helicopters."
http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20316
Bren Carlill of AIJAC and all those publicists of AIPAC and a vast troup of fellow mummers can congratulate themselves on a well-planned war and publicity campaign which saw ordinary Palestinians vilified, maimed and murdered. No crocodile tears, please, I'm sick of all the hand-wringing and anguish about how Gazans forced the IDF to kill children and hospital patients.
The next big World Media Circus is now underway: the early days of a new US president, bearing a bright flame of hope. May it burn as brightly in one year, in four or eight years, and may some of this year's war criminals watch that flame from behind bars for many more years.
The quote is from Noam Chomsky.