Good to know ASIO is out there William of Young.

We dont often hear they are still breathing:)

Maybe they ought to look into 'Mosques as arsenals'.

If Islam here is building a parallel society they might just need, or feel they need, guns for the great mission.
Ive heard stories that some have stored up guns for the day of Jihad in Australia.

We are so stupid as a country as to allow Defence to remain at 3rd world levels... decades and decades...whilst sedition quietly moves forward.

Jack Burrell was saying in his book WHAT WILL BECOME OF AUSTRALIA way back in the mid-70's that there were "men of dark countenances" plotting against Australia.

That would be from within... as well as from without... from the near north of our great land.

Why wouldnt there have been quiet two-way chit-chats between Islam here and Islam in Indonesia about "OZ under Sharia Law".

http://whatwillbecomeofaustraliajackburrell.blogspot.com/

Gibo, thats why you carry a cross and bible mate, your safe and only the taxman will get you!

Ozzie are you are aware that you are an immigrant?

All most of you younger guys seem to want is more war war war, as Churchill intimated at one time.

Yet though the same Churchill was forced to change his mind once again with the rise of Hitler, one wonders what Churchill would do with today's Middle East problem.

Would he do the same as he did against the anti-colonial Iraqis in 1922, bombing them with mustard gas, or would he have learnt from the past that to decimate and wipe out is not the only way to solve a problem.

Indeed, even the CIA has talked about how Western Payback can be ten to twenty times heavier than even the results of Islamic terrorism.

As has been also shown with Israeli Payback against the Palestinians right now.

It is so strange how in our academic areas we can discuss sharing the blame or sharing the guilt with our enemies, but one could say that as a historian studying our arrogant Western actions through history makes one wonder if we have ever thought about making peace with our duskier world neighbours in a more sensible non-murderous way?

Cheers, BB, WA.

The hate filled eyes of the demonstrators here in Australia against Israel here in Australia really says it all. Not a peep from them about rocket attacks or suicide bombers that their brotherhood inflict daily on Israel. The supporters of Hamas are a disgrace and to think that we allow them to immigrate and poop on our country after destroying their own is unbelievably stupid.

I notice it took quite a few posts before someone had to blame the US for the actions of these terrorists (HAMAS). Some people can't help but to be blinded by their dogmas.

Harry,

You say >> “The Israeli UN ambassador ... said that Israel intended to wipe out Hamas ...”

If you can’t see a difference between Hamas promising to wipe out Israel and kill or expel all the Israelis, and Israel threatening to kill all the members of a terrorist organisation, there is something wrong with you. An equivalent statement on behalf of the Israeli UN ambassador would be to promise to wipe out Gaza, or Palestine. Clearly they said nothing of the kind

You say >> “I believe the ... first step should come from the stronger side. “

I see. What would you call the unilateral withdrawal from Gaza? Hamas and their cronies haven’t used this chance for peace. They have merely moved their missile batteries closer to Israel. How can Israel make the first move with an organisation which is committed to Israel’s complete destruction? Haven’t you read Hamas Charter? Or do you simply not believe what they themselves are telling you?

Keith,

I really expected something a little more balanced form you. You normally provide evidence for your claims. I just cannot see how you can justify this idea that Israel is the only party lying, the only party to blame. And where do you get the idea that the West is turning against Israel?

You say >> “The western media is now so opinionated and biased ... it is simply no longer trusted ...”

I find this simply astounding. How about some evidence for this.

You say >> “the result of the ... Palestinian elections ... which saw Hamas elected as the Government ... resulted in Gaza being invaded ...”

Even if Hamas are the legitimate voice of the Palestinian people, and I doubt that, they are committed to Israel’s destruction. How is the fact that they were elected relevant to Israel’s right to defend itself? Of course Israel would prefer that the Palestinian Authority represented the Palestinian people. The Authority isn’t committed to driving every Jew out Israel. It’s hardly surprising or even unreasonable that Israel would attempt to assist the Palestinian Authority.