Well said, Foxy.
I pick on Col Rouge only because his is the post you are responding to, but there are many others posting here to whom my comments could refer.
If there is such a thing as a basic problem, I fear that it is that there are too many Col Rouges - not only here in Australia, but also in Israel and Gaza (and elsewhere of course) who respond to their primitive instincts rather pushing forward to an enlightened world community.
It is only when we see that people behave in a certain way because of the environment in which they live (not wanting to open up a nature vs nurture debate), and to change that environment to reduce their hatreds, that progress will be made. Col might argue that we can change that environment by bombing one side into oblivion, but as an atheist and a humanist, I strongly reject that attitude.
The evolution does take time, and there will be plenty of going forward and going back, but at least the Col Rouges of this world (again, my apologies for using you as the example, Col) are well educated, and can think, and there is a chance that their attitude will change to one of more tolerance. Let us hope it is sooner rather than later,

Hamas is a Creation of Mossad/by Hassane Zerouky http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

the Mossad/Israel's"Institute for Intelligence and'Special'Tasks" supported the creation of hammas...while Arafat's Fatah'Movement'were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation
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,to push the'Islamists'against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation(PLO)"..Prime-Minister Golda/Meir,saw this as a an opportunity to counterbalance the rise of Arafat’s'Fatah-movement.

the Islamic associations and the university]were authorized to receive money payments from abroad...."The Real Goal/Gaza Assault?..Jonathan Cook/Counterpunch/January

Gaza,refugee camp...,is a death trap.]..and will require the permanent military reoccupation of Gaza...to assume responsibility for the'welfare'of the local civilian population,

an invasion of Gaza to overthrow'Hamas'is a reversal of the trend in Israeli policy since the'Oslo'process of the early 1990s...Naively,Arafat assumed he was leading a government-in-waiting.

In truth,he simply became Israel’s chief security/oppression contractor.

Arafat was tolerated during the 1990s because he did not stop Israel’s effective annexation of large parts of the West Bank through the rapid expansion of settlements and increasingly harsh movement restrictions on Palestinians...[while preparing for a statehood that never arrived.]lol

The savage blockade deprived Gaza’s population of essentials..Israel has barely bothered to hit the Hamas'leadership'..or its military wing...it has killed substantial numbers of'ordinary'policemen,the guarantors of'law and order'in Gaza.

Israel/settlers apparently hope to persuade the Hamas leadership,as it did Arafat,that its best interests are served by co-operating with Israel...

israel and Hamas are almost certain in'the end'to agree to another ceasefire...in doing so,Hamas,like Arafat before it,loses sight of its primary task:to force Israel to end its occupation...but ask why settlers want talmud law?

http://www.biblestudysite.com/factsarefacts.htm
quotations;from the Soncino Edition of the Talmud,(Book)

YEBAMOTH,60b...Rabbi.Ramanos who conducted an inquiry and'found'in it the daughter of a'proselyte'who was under the age of three years and one day(14),and Rabbi declared her eligible to live with a priest(15)."

(footnotes)"(13)A proselyte under the age of three years and one day may be married by a priest...(14)And was married to a priest.(15)i.e.,permitted to continue to live with her'husband'."

(Book)

SANHEDRIN,55b-55a:"What is meant by this?Rab said:Pederasty with a child below nine years of age is not deemed as pederasty with a child above that.

(footnotes)"(1)The reference is to..the passive..'subject'/victim..of sodomy

Wake up everyone;
There is no solution to this dispute.
Accept that some disputes have no solution.

Don't worry about it !

I'm all for your concept concerning hatred between Jews and Arabs, Harry G.

Thus to weigh it up, could say it has become a case between Arab resentment and Israeli arrogance.

Therefore as it has been over two thousand years since the Jews had a say in Palestine, Israeli arrogance should be calmed down by a very competent United Nations with former Pax Americana now simply taking a back seat.

Cheers, BB, WA.

"Moawiya Hassanein, head of Gaza medical emergency services, told AFP the number of Palestinians killed since the Israeli operation was launched on December 27 was now 512, including 87 children, with more tan 2,500 wounded."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iZCONo8ygEjHolVWwW7wN50I0suQ

Further to my last post - see the following article

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230733181633&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

All involved infantry units (a MASSIVE change in thinking for Israel, but the IDF is now led by an infantry General) have been trained intensively for urban/built up area warfare.

The position is extremely similar to that in Falujah prior to the USMC's attack on the same, so the response is likely to be similar too.

Expect to see Gaza fully surrounded, the citizen's advised that given their failure to elect a government capable of governing their own city peaceably, that they are required to move out for a period.

The rest will proceed almost the same as Falujah... Massive artillery preparation, followed closely by an infantry assault.

There is no relevant "Occupied Territory" argument, it is dead in the water in Gaza, Israel handed over the territory at issue.

As to the moral equivalency argument, the people elected a government who chose to wage war against their inestimably stronger neighbour, as I said, c'est la guerre.

The Grad Rocket is an artillery rocket (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-21), used extensively by ex-Warsaw Pact countries, it is NOT homemade, any more than the Merkava IV's being used in response. The fact it's operator's to date have been inadequately trained and/or inept, doesn't change the nature of the weapon ( see http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1210668635737&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull).

For those who continue to trumpet bizarre racial theories, perhaps the UN can determine those likely to commit such crimes by the exact science of phrenology?