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What is Israel's Gaza goal? : Comments

By Neve Gordon, published 31/12/2008

Israel seems more concerned with electoral politics and restoring its military reputation than stopping the Qassam rockets

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Dear Ivor(y)

You are not understanding me.

I am not recommending anything other than the complete embracing of Christ as the preferred solution.

I am 'STATING' possible solutions also on the purely human level. As in... possible scenarios and the outcome.

Examinator is quite right on one thing.. it is very hard to squash an idea or ideal... hence.. apart from mass conversions to Christianity, the total ethnic cleansing (using examinators logic) is the only other ultimately workable solution on a human level.

I can never understand why people make comparisons with the road toll when trying to categorize terrorism. That is quite irrational I'm afraid.
Grad rockets are not reaching further than ever before. The logical and obvious prediction based on real world evidence is:

"Hamas/Palestinians will continue to improve both the range and explosive power of rockets/missiles until they can hit Tel Aviv or any Israeli town."

Only a complete dunderhead would not get that. Israel, not being dunderheads, says to itself "Hmmmm.. this is going to lead to that... thus.. we must stop them" which leads of course to the best of many ugly solutions.
Tap tap...wake up.

Dear Foxy.. I don't see any humanity whatsoever in those hurling rockets at Israel. They did it during the 'ceasefire' and THEY(hamas) declared the ceasefire ended.. hmmm where did they get the inspiration for that from ? :) u guessed it.

Quran surah 9 verse 1

1. Freedom from (all) obligations (is declared) from Allâh and His Messenger (SAW) to those of the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh), with whom you made a treaty.

See how easy it is if ur a Muslim? "Just declare" your obligations are over and then in the next breath say "Kill them wherever you find them" (verse 5)

Mohammad had no humanity, nor do his followers. (unless there is humanity in "kill them wherever you find them")
Posted by Polycarp, Friday, 2 January 2009 6:26:46 AM
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Two peoples so focussed on God that they have completely lost sight of Good.
It is shameful how far humans take "us and them".
Posted by Ozandy, Friday, 2 January 2009 9:06:54 AM
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Bush-administration;lied about'weapons of'mass-destruction';to dupe us into supporting an illegal,immoral'invasion;of Iraq'.

Israel trotted out;an'infinitesimally'more credible excuse..the'Hamas'/rockets-case;as justification for its own murderous'shock and awe'in Gaza,

a long-planned campaign perniciously aimed at ousting a“regime”that came to power via popular,democratic vote.

Israeli apologists have presented absurd propaganda about those devices...what would we do if'rockets'were being launched on our homes in New York?...'if'..those'nations'had been'unlawfully/occupied'or'embargoed'by the United-States for 60 years of relentless oppression and repression,

and if all attempts at'peaceful-change'had been forcefully prevented or scuttled by the U.S.,then such attacks would be an understandable,.

Our appropriate response wouldn’t be to'bomb_the_hell'out of the nearest Canadian/Mexican city,but to collectively look into mirrors and earnestly ask ourselves,“What have we done to incur their wrath?”

Conscientious Israelis acknowledge that the Hamas rockets rationale is fraudulent...Jerusalem Post..,“We don’t want to see how people in Gaza are living,we block it out of our minds;

which,is natural for a'society'at war,but[which]also keeps that war going longer than it might[if we would recognize that'Gaza'is getting so much the worst of it].

“The Kassam[rockets;.,very few deaths/serious wounds.By contrast, Israel has terrorized[1.5 million]Gazans,locked them inside'their'narrow borders,throttled'their'economy,and killed and seriously wounded thousands of them . . .

As Gazan hospitals and morgues fill beyond capacity because of an ongoing air assault that[cruelly]began at'precisely'the hour when countless children were heading home from school,''we’re expected to believe that'small-craters'mostly in empty'Israeli-fields'constitute this[terrible]episode’s chief sin.

At any point during the past six decades,Israel could have had peace,simply by assenting to the great'moral-imperative',of our/time, namely the Palestinians’right'to their'own',unitary,sovereign homeland.

Something which Israel continues to resist tooth and nail..in Southern Lebanon,too,it maintained that only“terrorist”targets were being hit.As impartial observers finally ascertained the truth,clear evidence of enormous civilian'carnage'surfaced.

The US/Israeli'leadership'lied then,and'it’s'lying now...Apart from being an ethical travesty[offending all decent hearts],it’s an unpardonable outrage.

It takes no extraordinary'analytical-prowess'to appreciate that,when the'White-House'ridiculously blames what’s currently happening on“thugs”in Gaza,..innocents in Gaza are getting ripped to death by'American'-made'Hellfire'missiles,dispatched toward fleshly/living'targets' by Isra-eli pi-lots.

In fact,the almost certain,counterproductive outcome of Israel’s action makes us necessarily suspect that;secret;motives mistakenly judged by Tel-Aviv to be worth the risk are actually at play.
Posted by one under god, Friday, 2 January 2009 11:54:23 AM
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Fascinating "final solution" proposed by Porky - everybody should convert to Christianity and we'll all live happily ever after (and if they don't, then just "ethnically cleanse" the Muslims out of existence).

Topped up with a classic bit of Islamophobic vilification of Muslims:

<< Mohammad had no humanity, nor do his followers. >>

That's vilification of Muslims, not of Islam - and its purpose is to dehumanise them for the purposes of Porky's preferred solution of "ethnic cleansing".

Perhaps Porky could do us all a favour and head off to Gaza for a spot of proselytising?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 2 January 2009 12:14:35 PM
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OUG: "...Israel could have had peace..."

True, but only temporary peace.
Peace that will lead to even greater danger, (for Israel) later on, then a point of regretful no return.

I'm sure the Israeli think-tank understands this deeply.

If the Palestinians are Atheists/Buddhists/Christians/Hindus, then yes, a permanent peace is not only possible, Palestinians will have a country along-side Israel, co-existing peacefully.

But this is an impossible scenario. Hence there will never be peace, until one-side is totally destroyed. The Palestinians will never be totally destroyed in Islamic Middle-East. The only possiblity is the destruction of Israel. Israel is making sure this does not happen. The West knows the importance of Israel and Israel is more important than Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran.

Peace is important but nothing can be more important than the truth.

If you don't choose Islam, Islam will be against you and there will be intervals of false peace before you realise you have to deal with Islam.

The reality is grim, will always be grim. But the truth will set you free.
Posted by G Z, Friday, 2 January 2009 4:30:04 PM
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Do any of you bother with the historical truth of Gaza.I have fifteen websites of Jews who are learned and enlightened which is moe than I can say about you,you racist and bigot,stevenlmeyer.This space is for intelligent discussion so what the hell are you doing here.

Does anyone really know that ober 80% of Gazans are descendants of Arabs who were driven out of their rightful lands in what is today the rogue state of Israel.Ever hear of Deir Yassin? That's asking too much of you steviewonder!

What is Israel's solution for thye Gaza imbroglio?
Precisely to preserve the status quo becfause in the future all Israeli Arabs will be driven there.Why? Because of pure " demography is destiny." (Aguste Comte)Simple as that.Therefore there can be no solution to the Gaza question unless they can get the Arabs to accept the de facto sovereignty of Israel which in international lar has no de jure justification whatsover.

Get it!stevie wonder? And the rest oif you embittere4d idiots.Hamas illustrates the question of legitimacy being paid for in blood...never to succeed.They are to be admired.They know they cannot win.They know they are called upon to die for the vision splendid

socratease
Posted by socratease, Friday, 2 January 2009 5:20:13 PM
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