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The case for decriminalising abortion is not so simple : Comments

By David Palmer, published 4/7/2008

There is an ever expanding database of women having an abortion and paying a terrible cost.

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HRS, so many questions. You really don't need to pretend that you need all this info for a friend. It's OK to admit that you don't know but are willing to learn.

I've already suggested that you practice on your own first. That might save some embarrasment. If you can get a friend (or 10) to help that might be a lot of fun but don't get distracted. If you can't work it out and can't find a friend who knows what to do then perhaps seek the help of a professional. Again use a reputable firm as they are more likely to have experience and less likely to pass on an STD. Do you still need some explaination of the suggestion regarding fruit or veges?

I'd really suggest you avoid getting drunk. You seem to find the idea of putting on a condom difficult enough without adding alcohol into the mix. Once you have mastered the basics then consider moving onto more advanced scenario's. If you really need to be drunk the issue of informed consent has been discussed elsewhere.

I'd consider getting your marriage counselling from a trained marriage counsellor rather than an abortion clinic. Marriage issues really are not their field.

I'd avoid seeking out freebies when it comes to condoms (especially if you ever try and use one for the intended purpose). They are not that expensive and come in a variety of sizes, textures, colours and flavours. If it helps shop assistants don't generally laugh out loud if you buy a size smaller than XXXL.

I appreciate that you've built this image of me as so virile and sexually appealing that I would invaribly have large numbers of women seeking my participation in social occasions. (A male equivalent to Fractelle or Celivia so to speak). That said my own tastes tend to be quite modest, no setting off on a merry jaunt with a pocket full of condoms and a stick to fight armorous women off. Rather the returned love of a good woman, friendship, mutual respect and faithfulness is more my thing.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 8:03:34 PM
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Robert,
I’m quite aware of how a condom works. My concerns are the reliability, and quite a lot of concerns about people using condoms if they already have an STD.

I also have significant concerns regards these so called sex education classes, particularly after one aware and loving feminist has called the fetus a toe nail, and they did attend a sex education class.

I suppose all the medical texts will have to be rewritten to adhere to feminist theory. Except for medical texts on IVF of course, which will be allowed to call a fetus a fetus.

But if aware and loving feminists want to keep aborting all these “potential humans” (as one feminist has described it), then eventually there won’t be any more feminists either. I’m uncertain if feminists have realized that.

Probably not.
Posted by HRS, Thursday, 24 July 2008 1:06:32 AM
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HRS,

Using your simplistic approach to sex education could be used in other areas.

Fat people, you can lose weight by eating less,

Drug addicts can kick the habit by just stopping,

Jeez why didn't I think of that before.

Condoms work most of the time, and while I would like to think of my self as smarter than the average, I don't think that using a condom correctly the first time is going to convince anyone of my genius.

Your concern with regards their effectiveness is a transparent religious attack on the use of contraceptives.

In South Africa, a couple of religious nut jobs running around preaching abstinence and warning of the failures of condoms has made a large no of youth think that there is no real benefit of using condoms.

With 1000+ people dying of HIV a day in that country alone, I think that these cretins should be tarred, feathered and shipped out on a rail.
Posted by Democritus, Thursday, 24 July 2008 5:58:58 AM
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Democritus wrote: "With 1000+ people dying of HIV a day in that country alone, I think that these cretins should be tarred, feathered and shipped out on a rail."

And how. Promoters of abstinence programs know they don't work — the evidence is there in the form of HIV infection rates in Africa and teen pregnancy rates in the USA. Yet they continue to push them, mostly, I assume, for religious reasons. It's an outrage.

HRS, I note that you are sarcastic to everyone you address ("Fractelle, (the feminist gossip)Next you'll probably start saying that you've been abused" and "Veronika... I think it doesn’t say much for the reliability of your sex education" and ""Robert, Before you embark on your adventures with a pocket full of condoms").

I had a look at your comment history. I see that the vast majority of your posts are sarcastic and aggressive attacks on feminism. Can you explain why?
Posted by Veronika, Thursday, 24 July 2008 6:33:26 AM
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Robert: << Do you still need some explaination of the suggestion regarding fruit or veges? >>

Timkins, a suggestion for you: don't practice your condom skills on a pineapple or a cabbage. You never answered my question - where and how did you receive your sex education?

Here's another one - do you actually have a sex life, or is it all abstinence, frustration and bitterness for you?

Veronika: << I had a look at your comment history. I see that the vast majority of your posts are sarcastic and aggressive attacks on feminism >>

If you look up his previous incarnation as "Timkins", you'll find much, much more of the same. This is one very sad troll, as far as his attitudes to women go.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 24 July 2008 6:42:54 AM
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"If you look up his previous incarnation as "Timkins", you'll find much, much more of the same. This is one very sad troll, as far as his attitudes to women go."

Ha. I always think of HRS as a woman because the handle reminds of HRT - hormone replacement therapy. How unsurprising that he's just another religious misogynist who wants to control women.
Posted by Sancho, Thursday, 24 July 2008 11:18:59 AM
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