Celivia,
I wonder if IVF will be taught in sex education classes. Every sperm and ovum would be sacred in an IVF clinic. Could be worth money.

IVF may become the only way that the country can produce children.

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- It's been shown from the bible that the christain god does not place any special value on fetus's.
- It appears that the christain fundies who make such a big deal about abortion are out of step with their god.
- It's been shown that abstenance only education does not reduce the likelyhood of abstenance actually occuring.
- It's been shown that comprehensive sex education does delay when teenagers start sexual activity.
- It's been shown that cultures with more liberal attitudes to sexuality and the body have lower unplanned pregnancy rates than those more focused on sexual sin.
- It's clear that condoms and other forms of contraception are not perfect but their success rates improve with education and usage.
- Using a condom even with the failure rates is far more likely to provide protection from an unplanned pregnancy or STD than not using one.

So those who want less abortions and less STD's will support comprehensive sex education possibly in conjunction with an appeal to abstenance if thats important to then.

Those who just have a mantra and refuse to reevaluate their stance will continue to oppose the very steps which will help reduce the abortion and STD rates.

R0bert

Robert,
“Today, one child in three is born out of wedlock. Only 14 percent of these births occur to women under the age of 18. …Thus, giving birth control to teens in high school through safe-sex programs will have little effect on out-of-wedlock childbearing.”

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Abstinence/BG1533.cfm

I think you will find a similar situation in Australia, so sex education classes are just an excuse for feminists to get into schools.

What happens to children born out of wedlock. Probably about 50% will loose a parent (normally the father) by the age of 5. These children are much more likely to live in poverty, much more likely to suffer child abuse (normally from mummy or mummy’s new boyfriend), become runaway children, become involved in crime, become involved in drug taking, get STD’s, become a father or a mother as a teenager, and for the daughters: have an abortion.

That is the family type that feminists so much admire.

Timkins/HRS: << What happens to children born out of wedlock. Probably about 50% will loose a parent (normally the father) by the age of 5. These children are much more likely to live in poverty, much more likely to suffer child abuse (normally from mummy or mummy’s new boyfriend), become runaway children, become involved in crime, become involved in drug taking, get STD’s, become a father or a mother as a teenager, and for the daughters: have an abortion.

That is the family type that feminists so much admire. >>

Oh put a sock in it Timmy. You just make this crap up, don't you?

You really need to get a life.

HRS, that article is by Robert E. Rector (Erector- hmmm misleading name). I’d already discovered that you get most of your opinions from him.

Robert E. Rector is the guru of abstinence policy, member of the conservative, Bush-adoring think-tank, Heritage Foundation, which fires people as soon as they think. John Hulsman was fired for criticising the Bush administration for their Foreign policy.

Anyway, Erector says, “Teenage sexual activity is a major problem confronting the nation… Abstinence education programs for youth have been proven to be effective in reducing early sexual activity.”
I don't get it. The USA has been teaching abstinence-only programs for ages, costing millions of dollars p.a., so where do all those sexually active teenagers come from?
Erector doesn’t use proper research, makes up his own stuff just like you, HRS.

Haha sit down everyone, something funny coming up.
In the 90s, Rector said that there is no poverty in America. Lol!
And how did he come to that conclusion?
Because so-called poor Americans are fat and have a TV, and they wouldn’t be fat and able to afford a TV if they suffered from poverty.
Hilaaaaarious, are you sure that he’s not a comedian? It’s really worth sussing this guy out, for a good laugh.

OK back to being serious.
Fact is, women (as well as men) today marry at a later age than in the past and it’s just unrealistic to expect everyone to remain celibate until they get married.

Some religious people such as David Palmer encourage people to marry at a very young age and they’re welcome to preach that.
But there’s no reason, other than an obsession to control other people’s sexual behaviour, to impose their beliefs upon people outside their religion.
Perhaps they can get counselling for their obsession.

The fact that they encourage their children to get married young may well account for the higher divorce rate amongst the religious than amongst atheists.

PRESENTING:

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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6RHHoVQn5tI&feature=related

Back in the real world:

"Teenagers need sex education. And they need to feel comfortable about translating their knowledge into action, whether that action is successfully rolling on a condom or confidently saying no to sex."

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/08/31/1093938920407.html?from=storylhs

Happy weekend everyone!