CJ,
These tiny condoms with the small print come boxed with a magnifying glass.

Fractelle.
Very scary indeed! What do you say, HRS?
The purity club is so much focused on daughters, what about sons? I suppose they get away with it more easily.
An acquaintance of mine has a 17-year-old son who became a ‘dad’ about a year ago. His girlfriend and he both attended Catholic schools.
He doesn’t want any responsibility for his child and has refused to see his baby son at all.
The teenage ex girlfriend lives with her parents who help her care for the baby as abortion was no option for her as a Catholic, but she had to drop out of school, whereas the teenage boy’s life did not change and he’ll be graduating from High School this year.
On World Youth day, he went into the city with family to applaud the pope.

HRS blames feminism for promoting sex education to prevent unplanned pregnancies.
HRS blames feminism and individual women for having an abortion.
HRS blames feminism and individual women for being single parents.
HRS denies that sex education and contraception reduce unplanned pregnancies by ignoring facts.
HRS stigmatises single mothers for raising their children, but call them murderers when they have an abortion.

I wonder if there has been research done about how children are doing when they are forced to grow up in a warzone where two parents make each other’s lives hell.

IMO, children are far better off living with one parent peacefully than having to grow up in a hostile environment with both parents who don’t love each other.

"If someone even questions why 1 in 4 pregnancies results in a visit to an abortion clinic, then that person must belong to the religious right, they are misogynist, they have never had sex, they don’t know how to use a condom, they don’t understand human anatomy, and besides all that, its none of their business because a fetus is no more human than a toe nail."

Not at all. It's a good question to ask about a worrying statistic. But rather than investigate matters factually with the aim of developing realistic approaches, you've simply trotted out the ideological line of the religious Right, ignored facts where they're inconvenient, made up your own facts where it suited you, demonstrated a reactive and unexamined loathing of women, and accused everyone who disagrees with you of being motivated by a perverted desire to increase the number of abortions, divorces and single mothers.

However, I can't comment on your anatomical accuracy.

The reason you make people angry is because you're switching your brain off and undermining progress on a complex, difficult social challenge by reducing it to "the world would be perfect if everyone was a right-wing fundamentalist like me".

Beautifully put Sancho.

Indeed Sancho. However, I don't think Timkins is actually a fundamentalist Christian - rather, I think that he's a deeply damaged man who latches on to any misogynist ideology available, in order to avoid examining his own problems.

I agree with this particularly:

<< The reason you make people angry is because you're switching your brain off and undermining progress on a complex, difficult social challenge >>

Which of course makes the poor bugger your classic Internet troll. We shouldn't feed trolls, but I acknowledge that this one manages to get around that general principle - probably because he can either be used to actually articulate sensible ideas like most recent posters have in this thread, or just because he provides a kind of schadenfreude amusement for those of us who are on to him.

Strangely though, Timkins has been around OLO for that long now - under various personae - that he'd be missed like an absent bleating sheep in the back paddock if by some miracle he chose to cease participating here.

At least for a short while :)

Sancho,
I don’t think an average abortion is all that complex. There are now abortion clinics advertising a no waiting period, so abortions are not complex, and have been made quite routine.

With a shortage of dentists, it is possibly more difficult to have a tooth extracted than it is to have an abortion.

But if abortions have been made quite routine, its only a small step away from certain people encouraging pregnant women to have abortions. These people would do that, either for profit, or because abortion was a part of their politics.

And that would be a concern wouldn’t it.

CJ Morgan,
I’ll tell you a joke to help cheer you up.

Did you hear the one about the ex university lecturer who became the number 1 name caller on OLO, and would call other people everything from odious to troll, and if someone disagreed with him, he would routinely call them insane, and would even say that they had a small penis and were sexually incapable.

Feminists thought he was wonderful of course, but it doesn’t say much for the quality of his education, or the quality of the university he lectured at.

HRS,
Abortion is a simple procedure if done in the first term of pregnancy. The safest and simplest way by far is by the RU486. That’s why it’s so retarded to ban these abortion pills.

After the 13th week, the risks are higher as the surgery is more complicated.
That’s why it’s important that abortion clinics don’t have a long waiting list.

BTW I’m dying to find out the punchline of your last joke- puhleaaaase, don’t keep us in suspense any longer,