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Saying sorry was just the first step : Comments

By Patmalar Ambikapathy Thuraisingham, published 19/2/2008

There has been injustice, the role of the law is to now remedy and redress those wrongs.

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'Ultimately an apology will engender greater respect and regard for the human rights of all Australians and we will be seen globally as more just, mature and compassionate beings.'

well said patmalar...shame that your bias elsewhere corrupts a very balanced sentence...so it makes it the usual feminist 'promote a good image while acting in self-interest' routine...

for example...attended a conference for women lawyers in sydney...dont see the sexist attitude in that...its as divisive as colour or any other base used to advance a select population...its the same imbalance that required an apology to aboriginals...now after all the current 'favouritism/advantage/imbalanced empowerment' that is enjoyed by women it seems that women need to apologize to men...dont you think...

dont you think if the all that effort to organize your conference was not for 'women lawyers' but 'lawyers wanting same recognition for same quality of work'...would have been better and you recognizing it, the sexist/racist/feminist tone as a first step...

I dont think pointing out this imbalance will do any good...it will just drive the deceit to more subtle subconscious state to obtain same... but I worry about people like you holding position of power... and even more that you are a barrister representing children...but hopefully it will lead you to a reanalysis and move to the balanced floor...not in words but consistent acts...

Sam
Posted by Sam said, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 9:24:15 AM
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“How can we live guilt and conscience free lives with third world conditions that, cause death and suffering to our Aboriginal citizens?”

Those of us who ‘can’ are not guilt-ridden weaklings. What happened in the past should be left in the past, and it is the bleeding hearts like this author who are encouraging aboriginal Australians to adopt a victim mentality instead of doing something for themselves. Those people of indigenous background who live in urban society – not in isolation away from jobs – have taken the same opportunities available to all Australians. No amount of ‘compassion’ or money is going to help people who will not help themselves.

There is no place in Australia for separate development.

Society cannot “provide” any particular lifestyle to aborigines of mixed blood or full blood, as this author asks. All that can be done for them – in the same way it is done for disadvantaged whites – is to offer what is available. If they don’t want to take advantage of what is on offer, that’s their business and they must take the consequences of preferring to live out their lives in squalor.

Aboriginal Australia has had enough time since the ‘stolen generation’ to opt for better lives. The ones who have done this for themselves, with or without interference, are proof that changes can be made.

We never hear about the people who have lifted themselves out of the Stone Age. There’s nothing in it for the activists and do-gooders, who prefer to agitate, whine, and perpetrate the hand-out mentality enabling people to slowly rot.

This is what Patmalar Ambikapathy and friends should feel guilty about. It is their “state of denial”, not Turnbull’s, Nelson’s or Abbot’s that they should be coming to terms with. PA and company and the Prime Minister can have as many blots on their souls as they like; realists stick to commonsense.

The author has one thing right – ‘sorry’ was just a symbolic gesture used to make the guilt-lovers feel good.
Posted by Leigh, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 9:51:23 AM
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If you don't agree with Kevin Rudd's apology on behalf of himself, his government and his parliament, simply tell every Koori you see "I'm a realist and I'm not sorry and you don't deserve an apology." When you've told enough of them they will inevitably come to their senses and feel grateful for all we've done for them.
Posted by bennie, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 9:59:12 AM
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There were about 50,000 aboriginal children who were removed from their parents over many years.

There are about 20,000 children each year who are being removed from their father, under a malicious, feminist and totally inhuman system called “Family Law”.

In terms of numbers, the current system of child abduction far outweighs the system of child abduction carried out on Aborigines many years ago.
Posted by HRS, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 10:08:16 AM
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No matter what the whites did it would be wrong in the 'experts' eyes. The number of indigenous leaders who justify abhorrent tribal practices which include sexual abuse of children today is incredible. This fact is conveniently ignored by academics.

We face the same difficult issues today than the early settlers did. Do we leave kids in total dysfunctional alcohol , drug and pornography infested communities to save culture or do we rescue the kids? I for one am very sorry that some of our white men raped and slept with aboriginal women and then failed to take up their responsibilities as parents. I am sorry we allowed the social engineers in the name of equal rights to destroy huge numbers of people by introducing grog to the communities. I am sorry that we had stupid Governments like that of Gough Whitlam that introduced sit down money that had led to every sin a person could imagine. I am sorry that the likes of Whitlam and Fraser have never apologised for such misguided policy. I am sorry that many people who gave up their lives to serve the aboriginals are now labeled as abusers. I am sorry that the many politicians have made political mileage out of keeping the indigenous people as victims rather than a people with dignity.

Somehow the experts infer that unless a person goes along with the politically correct crap that they lack compassion. I suspect many of the abusers in the communities have seen the Governments apology as some sort of vindication for their crimes
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 11:28:28 AM
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If there was such a wrong done, why are we not trying to prosecute the politicians, many of whom are still alive, some who are still in government who were complicit in this practice that was supposedly still happening in 1970.

Surely such a heinous crime deserves true justice....
Posted by Grey, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 1:55:54 PM
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