What a load of rubbish Leigh, you have once on the situation regarding saying sorry, because if the present generation as you say cannot be responsible for the past deeds of other generations. Then the current generation should not be liable for paying previous generations on old aged pensions, or ex servicemen financial support.

You wonder why Indigenous people can't get on with our lives read s51 of the Constution as Howard did, he knew we didn't have the same equal rights as other Australians and that is why he sent in the troops into the NT.

Its also very clear that whilst whites like you with your uneducated views towards Indigenous people are preventing Indigenous people from rising above their circumstances and standing on there own two feet.

Hey Bennie I dare you to go up to Anthony Mundine and shoot your big mouth off and see what happents to you, and you can expect the same from any other Koori except the females which would be easier for you.

Runner your a goose mate. The whole Indigenous community can not be held liabel for the behaviour of people in the middle of nowhere as you can't be held responsible for thois whites appearing on my television for anti social behaviour, rape murder etc. Our law would have sorted this out in minute whilst yours lets this scum get away with it. It a white man in the news claiming the rape of a n Aboriginal child was okay and the judge accepted this crap.

"Its also very clear that whilst whites like you with your uneducated views towards Indigenous people are preventing Indigenous people from rising above their circumstances and standing on there own two feet."

Indigenous people need permission from whites to stand on their own to feet?

Yindin

You confirm that Mr Rudd's apology means nothing in practice. It certainly has not made you any more civilized.

I will agree with you though that it is the dumb white judges who refuse to deal with the child abusers. It is the dumb Government that gives power to the likes of ATSIC and wonder why no money gets through to the people who need it. As I said before it should be the Whitlams and the Frasers saying sorry for their dumb policies.

Grey says "If there was such a wrong done, why are we not trying to prosecute the politicians, many of whom are still alive."
An excellent point, and in addition, put them on trial as war criminals for their participation in murdering 1.2 million Iraqis and dispossessing 4.5 million; a horrendous crime whereby the Iraqi people might not recover and still far from finished.
The day before the politicians and their crodile tears, in the "sorry" event, some 2000 aboriginals were protesting in Canberra about the governments intended use of military/police to grab aboriginal land in the N.T. for mining then using aboriginals as a very cheap source of labour in the mines and on stock stations. The governments devious campaign has gone ahead on behalf of 'big business'under the lying pretext of "helping or protecting the children from abuse." There are 72 settlements involved. As well, a part of selling the uranium ore overseas has been an assurance to take back depleted uranium and dump it in the N.T.
Significantly, the media promoted the "sorry" event. Two hundred years of genocide of our aboriginal brothers and sisters like the Iraqis is not over. It is only "sorry" to the next time comes around. It was the Labor Party in Western Australia who first targetted "the stolen generation" on behalf of "big business" and the land grab. To breed out 'no future claims on the land'. There is a causal link in the land grab in the N.T. but in a different form.

Another article written by another lawyer.

I supposed freedom of speech applies to them too, although a lot of lawyers I know of do not put pen to paper unless someone is footing the bill.

I wrote this for the other “lawyer thread”

A society which separates its people based on race is a racist society.
Expecting special consideration from government based on ethnicity is racist.

Demanding compensation for past wrongs inflicted on say ancestors is invalid since the claimant did not suffer the loss.

In claiming compensation for being removed from a dangerous domestic situation, I would expect the claimant needs to “prove” the intention which prompted the action and records may well cast a different perspective to the circumstances of removal, I don’t rate the chances of any compensation claims.

Even if claims are settled, I doubt it will do any good. The things which are been sought, words like “sorry” or monetary compensation for supposed wrongs and slights are not going to achieve anything.

Only achievement through personal excursion (be it physical, intellectual or by moving to a place where things are better, like nearly every migrant who has come and formed a life in Australia) will produce the self-esteem and self respect which those who continually have their hand out are really seeking.

“Cargo-cult cultures”, funded by government handouts, do not produce “happy people” (just as you see no smiling faces on the punters in casinos). It is only thought self-esteem and self-reliance that “happiness” is generated.

I am tempted to respond to Yindin but self-restraint intervenes, at least at this stage.