Col's like one of those turtles you whack at an amusement arcade. No sooner do you whack him than he scuttles away and pops up somewhere else, this time simply copying and pasting his racist drivel to yet another thread.

I see he's in mostly good company here, with a couple of notable exceptions. It's probably therapeutic for OLO's racists and obsessives to get together on one thread to vent their disgruntled spleens.

Saying sorry was indeed just the first step, in so many ways. Part of where we go from here involves dealing with that small but shrill minority of racists who've come out from under their rocks since the Prime Minister's historic Apology. Identifying them is a good second step.

Given that something like 70% of the electorate approves Rudd's apology, it must be clear to the nay-sayers that they are out of step with the nation. I suspect that they are generally feeling cornered and defensive, which is why they're all hissing and spitting like cornered snakes (or just babbling away deliriously in some cases).

It'll be nice once they realise just how out of touch they are with their fellow Australians, and accept that the current Australian Prime Minister, Parliament and People are greater than they are. That might be a third step.

Some of you do go on a bit.

Responding to what someone said very early in this thread, there are now more than twenty two thousand Indigenous university graduates in Australia, with another 1200 more each year. The birth-rate boom of the eighties and onwards is just hitting tertiary age, so graduate numbers will reach fifty thousand by 2020, twelve years away. By 2050, who knows, there could easily be one hundred thousand Indigenous university graduates across Australia. Two thirds currently are women, overwhelmingly Indigenous graduates are in the cities. If the men lifted their game, who knows what might be achieved ? It certainly would give the Aboriginal industry people far less to whinge about.

CJ Morgan “Col's like one of those turtles you whack at an amusement arcade.”

Well at least I would be giving amusement to some,

You, on the other hand, present more like the fairy floss which is on sale in the same arcades

it looks a lot to start with but when checked out, just melts down to an unsubstaintial, sickly nothingness.

“this time simply copying and pasting his racist drivel to yet another thread.”

Maybe you could challenge the racist content which you bluster on about.

Like I said previously on this and other posts and am happy to repeat here

“A society which separates its people based on race is a racist society.
Expecting special consideration from government based on ethnicity is racist.”

You claim I am a racist,

So justify your pathetic posturing and grand standing,

So come on, motor mouth,

debate the point

challenge my view

try your best to be a man, place your reasoning up for debate and I will be happy to counter it.

Sigh. Somebody mentioned recently the necessity of repetition when dealing with the intellectually challenged.

Col the Troll: “A society which separates its people based on race is a racist society.
Expecting special consideration from government based on ethnicity is racist.”

Australia doesn't separate its people based on the outmoded social construct of "Race", despite the persistence of some racists who still like to categorise people into biological "races".

Aboriginal people are the descendants of the original ingabitants of what is now Australia, who have been systematically deprived of their lands and way of life, and who have been subject to the very worst treatment and neglect by colonial, State and Federal governments, and by countless settlers over the past two centuries or so.

While Aboriginality might technically be a form of ethnicity, in the Australian context Aboriginal people differ from other ethnicities due to their very well-documented history of having been singled out for the very worst treatment (often on "racial" grounds) by governments and settlers - no other ethnic group originated here, nor was subject to the systematic processes of expropriation, massacre and institutional neglect to which Aboriginal people have been since British colonisation.

If a belated program of redress and reconciliation involves "special consideration from government", then that might be construed by a shrill and embittered minority of racists as constituting 'positive discrimination', but it is certainly not racism.

Col's aware of all this, of course - or should be, since it's all been said to him before. He hasn't refuted it before, despite some fairly devious sophistry, and I bet he won't be able to this time - at least without some puerile resort to trying to cause offence to those with whom he disagrees but can't bully.

CJ Morgan says "Australia doesn't separate its people based on the outmoded social construct of "Race".
This was from an article in 2004. "Locked away under Australia’s mandatory detention policy are pregnant women, babies and unaccompanied children as young as eight. There are currently 582 child prisoners. They include 53 who are unaccompanied by adults, of whom 40 are in the remote Woomera camp on the edge of the South Australian desert." http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/dec2001/refu-d11.shtml
And another report paints a picture of refugees who have fled persecution at home only to languish in detention in Australia in grossly inadequate facilities, suffering from depression and desperation, with women and children facing the constant risk of assault. Staff exhibit low morale and often treat the refugees as criminals. The abuse of immigrants has been notorious and systematic. The White Australia policy is still in force used by the ALP and Liberals. Racism is a tool used to create divisions but it is not the main issue - class dominates over race. The White Australia policy was implemented originating through the trade unions to keep workers divided through nationalism and away from socialist internationalism.

Will Rudd stop stealing generations?

HRS came to my rescue and I will only add some points.
Definitely Rudd have done a very good step. Let's ask him to make many more such steps. I do not make any difference between ethnic groups. And my statements which are based on personal experience and observation also apply to aborigines. When anybody including government takes away children from both or one parent, it is no different to any mafia or terrorists kidnapping children. So our children are being kidnapped. It is legal crime of highest weight.
Number two. This is creation of thousands dysfunctional people. Those innocent children will never learn how to interact with two parents, with spouse in their future marriage, to solve conflict and to share good and bad times. They are being crippled for life. I do not want to go into my tragedy induced by government because it may be a bit off topic and not everyone may enjoy my personal (in general terms however) here is the address.
http://niezmienny.googlepages.com/legaldestructionoffamilies - my webpage
The next point is that Family Court of Australia has absolutely no basis to exist. I found it and also asked VIP who have absolutely no justification for existence of this family destroying organisation.
There is saying power, money and sex are driving all decision makers.
Here is one reason why we have divorces. "Legal industry as any other industry seek maximum profit at minimal effort".
"What would happen to our families if judges and lawyers were paid for each saved family, and nothing for each destroyed as now"?
I think we should start talking about stolen generation and continuing stealing generations as a major legal crime.
No it is no contradiction. As Hitler have committed crime (all know that) and it was legal because drafted in parliament by the rulers. All they does not preclude that government can and do commit crime.
When any crime and in particular this type of crime against innocent children and both parents and also society is being committed, everyone suffers in consequence.