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Saying sorry was just the first step : Comments

By Patmalar Ambikapathy Thuraisingham, published 19/2/2008

There has been injustice, the role of the law is to now remedy and redress those wrongs.

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CJMorgan “Australia doesn't separate its people based on the outmoded social construct of "Race",

“….While Aboriginality might technically be a form of ethnicity,”

dictionary.com came up with

“Ethnicity Identity with or membership in a particular racial, national, or cultural group and observance of that group's customs, beliefs, and language.”

Discrimination “treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: eg. racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.”

CJMorgan “as constituting 'positive discrimination', but it is certainly not racism.”

CJMorgan would have us believe he is not supporting “racism”, but he is a supporter of “ethnicism” .

I am sure such a point of “linguistic distinction” might slip past the most erudite of English scholars but one thing CJMorgan is not is an “English Scholar”.

“discrimination” is “discrimination” from the dictionary, it is to treat or consider someone on a set of qualities beyond those of “individual merit”.

“Positive discrimination” being used to favour an "ethnic group" who conform to a defined “ethnicity” is, equally “negative discrimination” toward those citizens who do not conform to that ethnicity.

You can call it what you want CJMorgan,

Ultimately you are advocating discrimination in favour of aborigines and against non-aborigines.

You can say it is not racial, racism or “racially based “ whilst admitting it is "ethnical", "ethnicism" and “ethnically based".

So, the “merit of the individual” is discarded and replaced with an ethnically based qualification, which many, regardless of their "Merit", cannot aspire to.

I have consistently promoted the view that all people are entitled to equal treatment under our laws and governmental services.

CJMorgan has consistently reviled me for being a racist.

and my support of the equal application of the law and governmental services is "racist".

CJMorgan claims he is not a racist.

So, since CJMorgan has admitted he supports “ethnically based discrimination”, can anyone tell me, what on earth is he?
Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 9:31:24 PM
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Col Rouge: "You can call it what you want CJMorgan"

Er, no Col. It was you who claimed

“A society which separates its people based on race is a racist society.
Expecting special consideration from government based on ethnicity is racist.”

I refuted that and, rather than acknowledging that the Apology was not racist, Col attempts to change the subject.

Col's most recent curmudgeonly tirade against Aboriginal people serves only to emphasise publicly the deep racism that pervades his posts on this subject.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 10:17:19 PM
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Is this chick for real?

When are you "human rights" dills going to get it through your noggins that nobody - or group of people - has/had any right against history charging forward? No right against what you so weasely call "colonialism."

Life never stops, history moves on, crap happens.

Stop boring the crap out of the rest of us by constantly trying to take another bite at the cherry of history.
Posted by John Greenfield, Thursday, 21 February 2008 9:33:30 AM
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Sorry I was directing comments to CJ Morgan not Col Rouge in last post...silly me!

Sorry! (I made a mistake, I am accountable for my actions as it was my mistake, therefore I am more than happy to say sorry, WHEN A SORRY IS DUE!)
Posted by Lilia, Thursday, 21 February 2008 2:25:59 PM
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Um Col, I think that the basis of the apology was because the stolen generations came about through policies such as those cited below.

“A society which separates its people based on race is a racist society.
Expecting special consideration from government based on ethnicity is racist.”

Indigenous children were removed from their families based on race, particularly if there was a possibility that they had a non-Indigenous genetic contributor. These children were seperated from their mothers and families based on race. These children were not accepted into the white society as full citizens if at all, they were to be a servant class. Don't you just love the quaint english concept of racial superiority.

The purpose of the removals was to breed out the colour, (and breed out the colour) and culture. This action fits the criteria of genocide.

The non-Indigenous folk certainly separated its people based on race and expect/ed special consideration from government based on ethnicity. They expected land unencumbered by its rightful owners, they expected the right to oportunity and wealth and they expected that the country's people could be ordered around, or masacred at will. They also expected that it was their right to rip children from their parent's arms without recourse. Indigenous parents condemned to poverty by less wages, based on race, and with governmental control over the meagre wage they did recieve.

Col, Australia has it roots as a racist society. The Sorry Day was about writing a new page unfettered by racist ideology.
Posted by Aka, Thursday, 21 February 2008 10:37:00 PM
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Very well said, Aka. I agree completely.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 11:56:03 PM
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