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The politics of apology and the laws of compensation : Comments

By Nilay Patel, published 14/2/2008

Many international conventions binding on Australia recognise a right to an effective remedy for the stolen generations: but what are the legal issues?

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Thatchers Boy;- it takes a while for you to get your nonsense into a barely coherent form and post, doesn't it?
Now I'll answer you. Because I'M ready to.

Monday was an interesting day. A squeal of brakes; a thump and then some really loud screaming. A women hit a neighbours pitbull that ran into the street'; it died instantly. She should have locked her car door. The owner dragged her by her hair, and still holding her that way was punching her in the face.
It WAS an accident. It was also very difficult to get that man to release his grip. The day was spent with witness statements and two further interviews. This fellow broke her jaw!

TB: just outlandish enough to be true eh? I have hinted at this in my previous post, but why should I tell you now? WEEELLLLL; just a little update.
A prominent barrister (Brownie's Honour)and another well-known organisation have been made (by me)- aware of these two racist posts.

Will the sky fall in? No. But has this site and the posts that were/are considered appropriate on this particular forum come to the notice of groups that take a very dim view of this filth.....OH YES!

OLO is now being observed. That won't stop. It won't stop, because if this kind of thing can go up on OLO on grounds of Freedom of Speech, than racism is approved; it has a green light here, and without question the situation will get worse. (I know two of the writers, and I shall be contacting them).

Any opposition to this pernicious ugly trend on OLO has been met with the threat of suspension!!

Freedom of Speech my rrrrr's
Posted by Ginx, Saturday, 23 February 2008 7:37:10 PM
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“Excuse me, Col Rouge, how can 'history show' something that didn't happen? Does history also show how Australians would have been treated if Martians had invaded Earth? If fairies didn't know about teeth? If Howard had won the last election?”

Correct in so far as history is no guarantee of the future. But semantics in the sense that history may in fact portend quite a lot. There are clear patterns of how certain groups were treated under different colonizing / marauding groups up until that time. Some groups have clearly been less tolerant than others. And the Martians, tooth fairies and elections are obvious false analogies.

“So much mud to sling - nothing else to contribute? No argument? No ideas?”

You could apply that phrase freely to more than a few of the pro-comp posters. I think Col’s are generally mild in comparison. Also, when he does get excitable, he tends to attack ideas rather than individual posters & his ad-hominems are more often than not in response to those giving it to him. This is in stark contrast to some of his opponents. Take a casual glance on this thread for example.
Posted by KGB, Saturday, 23 February 2008 9:36:13 PM
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Zilmia, I have to agree that you indeed are one to whom an apology is due. However, my posts do not apply to you if you read them carefully, and I suspect that Ginx has attributed someone else's statements to me.

There seems to be a complete rejection of the notion that babies of mixed blood were rejected by their families when I know that was the case. I was living in the N.T. during some of that time, so I have some first hand knowledge of what was happening there. They are the ones for whom I still need answers. Not only were the babies rejected, but so were their mothers.

I am still waiting for an answer to my question.

Ginx et al, you will no doubt be delighted to hear that this is my final post on this matter. I will hereby be content to sit on the side and just observe.

Felicitations and salutations,

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Saturday, 23 February 2008 11:10:26 PM
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To David, please accept my apology, as I was incorrect in how I read your posting. This topic will always remain a strong debate, but at the end of the day, that's all it is.It is obvious that everyone needs to move on, not just my indigenous brothers & sister's, but the country as a whole.
Posted by zilmia, Sunday, 24 February 2008 10:55:10 AM
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Ginx “Thatchers Boy”

Thankyou, I am pleased to be associated with one of the greatest politicians of the 20 century.

“OLO is now being observed.”

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh scary stuff, maybe GY will be seen on TV, interviewed in the big brother house.

“Freedom of Speech, than racism is approved;”

Well cop this, duckie

“A society which separates its people based on race is a racist society.
Expecting special consideration from government based on ethnicity is racist.”

If you think me quoting another source which includes the statement

“We apologise for working hard to pay taxes that finance your welfare, medical care, education, etc to the tune of $1.2 billion each year.”

Then take me quoting it as if I had said it.

If you want my full details, first get a warrant. Graham Young has them on file somewhere, You and your fantasy “thought police” can get them from him and serve me in whatever court you like.

However, since I think you are simply a big bag of flatulent wind, I do not expect anything to happen soon..

Reading your puerile posts, I am inclined to give CJMorgan a rest, ignore him and focus solely upon you, as the current “potty-mouth-in-need-of-toilet-training”, worthy and seemingly panting for public denigration.

You must be a masochist.

As for “Freedom of Speech my rrrrr's”

Bring it all on but just remember, expect the worst of me in response.

KGB “he tends to attack ideas rather than individual posters & his ad-hominems are more often than not in response to those giving it to him.”

Thank you for your supportive observation.

You are correct, I respond “in kind” and thus do not attack those who disagree with me on a point of argument, provided they exercise decorum on addressing me.

However, when some scum-sucking troll, like Ginx, with the intellect of a dead chicken lets fly at me, I do take opportunity to indulge myself.

Childish, I know!
but it breaks up the day and I so enjoy a good bitch-slapping.
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 25 February 2008 11:06:09 PM
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Zilmia, you claim to be of the SG because you were taken when your mother was asleep, but as a 6 year old would you have known if she was asleep because of overuse of alcohol or whatever?
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If you think that the 1967 referendum gave equality then you obviously do not understand that the referendum was in fact reclassifying Aboriginals to be constitutionally “an inferior race”!
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As a “CONSTITUTIONALIST” I have canvassed this issue extensively already in my books and so no need to repeat the same.
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My previous postings have indicated that the murdering of Aboriginals and the taking of children from non-Aboriginal mothers cannot be any less then the harm caused to children that were forcibly removed.
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Kevin Rudd did not apologise on my behalf, as I had nothing to apologise for.
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If you witness a car accident and a person is injured, you may “feel” sorry for this person but you hardly would go over and say “sorry” where you had no participation in the accident, would you? Feeling sorry and saying sorry have different meanings.
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You cannot have it both ways, equality and then positive discrimination!
Section 521(xxvi) of the constitution is to discriminate against “inferior coloured races” and nothing to apologise about when the Aboriginals themselves supported this to be applied to themselves.
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One of my daughters is aunty to 5 Aboriginal children, and to me they are equal to others, but constitutionally they are not because Aboriginals were stupid enough to support the 1967 con-job referendum!
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To me the removal of any child, not just from Aboriginals, without just cause is terrible! But unless I participated in such deplorable conduct there is no apology in place for me to pursue and I cannot see how you could feel satisfaction by people basically turning this into some circus to make an apology where none is due.
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Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 1:19:50 AM
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