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The politics of apology and the laws of compensation : Comments

By Nilay Patel, published 14/2/2008

Many international conventions binding on Australia recognise a right to an effective remedy for the stolen generations: but what are the legal issues?

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Isn't it amazing, that those who make the most noise have the least amount to say.

We are still waiting for suggestions as to what should have happened to to those hapless infants who were rejected by their families/tribes because they had white fathers. What else might have happened to them if they had not been rescued by the authorities and placed in the care of the missions or other benevolent citizens who were prepared to give them a home?

Please, some answers.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 21 February 2008 8:39:11 AM
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Think they want to ignore your pertinent question, VK. By now the rules are pretty obvious. White = bad, non-white = good, black = great, Aboriginal = faultless & perfect. If they display any faults at all, then refer to rule 1, white = bad (it’s the white man, stupid). Any criticism of a PRACTICE or BELIEF regarding any non-white group is not only fallacious, but ipso facto ‘racist’. That’s just the rules.
Posted by KGB, Friday, 22 February 2008 3:54:58 PM
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So I’ll answer your question. They would have gone the way of all those other Aborigines whose short lives bring down their life expectancy to the 59 mark. Take them into care & then they hit 80. That’s racist, you can’t do that. You should pay compo for all the hurt of living to 80. Conundrum.

So from now on you leave them to their own devices, give all the handouts you referred to in your ‘apology to the Aborigines’ post, & when they take no responsibility for their own health & education (which is free, actually they get paid to use education) & go the way of the other unfortunates, then you are a racist because you didn’t wave a magic wand which would fix up every single problem they might have. In fact if you do anything at all which might upset them, then you are racist. Conundrum.

Because even if you don’t do anything to upset them, they may still experience upsets, as every human being does who ever lived. White man is again responsible for any upset they didn’t cause. Because even though they ‘might not have been directly racist’ (I love that because it leaves open the possibility that you were, like Passy’s “people whom we….ARGUABLY continue to commit genocide against”), they were ‘institutionally racist’. How can that be proved? It can’t, but it’s almost impossible to refute, like trying to prove a negative.

So you’re stuck. So what do you do? You do anything to avoid the label racist, which is the 2nd most dreaded label in the English language after ‘paedophile’. So you keep out of their way – don’t go near them, avoid them like the plague so you cannot possibly be associated with them in any way shape or form……but now you’re a racist.

If only they stuck the penal colony in Antarctica & another group settled Australia – the Japanese, Germans, Dutch, Portuguese, Spannish, Hutus, Tutsis, Arabs, Incas, Aztecs, Zulus, Maoris, Tongans, Samoans, Slavs, Mongols, Sioux, Papuans etc etc…..well let’s just say I think that would have solved the problem.
Posted by KGB, Friday, 22 February 2008 4:03:30 PM
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Gee, you are a cruel bastard, but I can't disagree with you.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Friday, 22 February 2008 10:43:19 PM
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I am an indigenous woman who is a part of the Stolen Generation.I was stolen frm my mother while she was asleep, I was 6yrs old, & I remember the events clearly. I was reunited with her 16yrs later at her funeral.After reading so many personal opinions, I ask the writers to close their eyes for just a moment,& if any of you have children, imagine the pain of awaking, or watching strangers taking your children away, imagine the heartbreak.Are people aware that the S.G is just 1 incident in our history? What about the massacre's,& no-one was accountable, what about the unpaid wages that the goverment withheld and built hospitals etc.How would you feel if you worked hard at your job, and at the end of the week you were given rations of flour & sugar, while your wages went elsewhere, but you had no say in the matter. Everyone is aware of the S.G but that is just the tip of the iceberg of what our people have been through. GENOCIDE, there is no words that can excuse the attempt of 'breeding' out a race,casteration of young aboriginal boys, so that they couldn't 'breed'..And today, the Goverment have a Victims of Crime commensation payable to anyone who has been a victim of crime, but no-one seems to acknowledge that.But everyone is up in arms and aggressive because the indigenous people may seek compensation? And nobody seems to acknowledge the physcological damage.Good on Rudd!
Posted by zilmia, Saturday, 23 February 2008 10:01:10 AM
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Oh FrankGol
I see you have come to defend the honour of the dishonourable, the manhood of the impotent and the intellect of the incompetent.

Well it is the 23 February and the “offending” post is still there.

Ginx’s demands

“Tomorrow morning I shall be making formal moves to get that defamatory piece of nonsense on page 4 removed.”

And

“object to White Supremacist crap, and I am trying to: 'restrict peoples fundamental right to freedom of speech'!!””

Have, rightly, failed

As to

“No matter how triumphal you are that Ginx has not been able to have the racist garbage removed from OLO, it remains just that, racist garbage. Being published on OLO is no endorsement of quality.”

Likewise, your malignant drivel pollutes the threads here, yet I do not complain about your right to post the inane.

I welcome you displaying how inept, incompetent and impotent the leftie really are.

I relish you displaying the asinine socialist view.

Please return and continue the good work.

VK3AUU “make the most noise have the least amount to say.”

The rattle of the empty mind is as loud as that of the empty bucket

KGB “In fact if you do anything at all which might upset them, then you are racist.”

The intellectualized and gentrified aboriginal, rainier, has promoted the view that some posters, including myself, should be banned from posting.

He displays not only his own racist views but a willingness to descend to censorship for his detractors.

History shows how the Spanish, German, Chinese, Indonesian or Japanese would have solved any “aboriginal” issue, had they colonized Australia.

As I have written on other threads

“A society which separates its people based on race is a racist society.
Expecting special consideration from government based on ethnicity is racist.”

Australia, pre the 1967 referendum on aboriginal rights was a significantly different place to that which has existed subsequent to the passing of that referendum.

The playing field was leveled,

Whatever is anticipated through “The politics of apology and the laws of compensation” only seeks to “tilt” what is level.
Posted by Col Rouge, Saturday, 23 February 2008 10:26:07 AM
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