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The politics of apology and the laws of compensation : Comments

By Nilay Patel, published 14/2/2008

Many international conventions binding on Australia recognise a right to an effective remedy for the stolen generations: but what are the legal issues?

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Lady Magnet: "Childish, I know! "

You said it.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 8:17:41 AM
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To me the removal of any child, not just from Aboriginals, without just cause is terrible! But unless I participated in such deplorable conduct there is no apology in place for me to pursue and I cannot see how you could feel satisfaction by people basically turning this into some circus to make an apology where none is due.
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Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 1:19:50 AM

I totally resent your opening statement with the words that "I claim to be of the SG". Not once did I say that I expected an apology from any individual, we have our apology from Rudd, & as I stated, it is time for our people & country as a whole to move on. As you would have noticed, this "circus" was well under way when I decided to participate. With all the forums that I have visited, not one contained a personal story of what a stolen generation survivor experienced, which is what my posting was all about, & I am sorry that you failed to see it as such. I do not know where the belief originated from that we expected every Australian to make a personal apology to each and every one of us. It was the goverment all those years ago that bought in the decision, & it was Rudd today, as leader of our country, that made the apology for it.Sorry is such a small word, but it has amazing healing powers
Posted by zilmia, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 8:55:17 AM
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Mr GHSH; such eloquent tolerant postings until you got to this matter, then suddenly we have a circus. Sad.
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One day away, trying to juggle two plates and..........strewth! TB you don't half get your Y-fronts in a twist don't you?

Can't read, can't spell. But I do have to agree: Thatcher was indeed one of the grossest politicians of the 20th century.

I did pop in and read your latest vomitora, but other than sending a quick email, there was no time to post.
My email was:" Guess what? Granny is a scum-sucking troll"!!
A one word reply:"COOOLLLL!!".

I have arrived! I have street cred! I'm cool!!

Then I made a necessary journey in the cabin of a large truck with a hairy chested fellow with several rings in his ears. My wee jalopy hanging off a large hook thingy on the back. "How is your day"? says he.'" I am a scum-sucking troll" says I."WHO SAID THAT!" says he. "The blow fly" says I. "Well you tell the blow fly from me that he is a ....... ....,. ....-.... ...-..., and should .... himself up his ... .... .

"I will" says I.(DAMMIT!! I forgot to tell him about the dead chicken!).

Yes TB, I know you don't believe me, but you really made my day. I swear it. Even when the car packed up I was still laughing about it.

You got just about everything wrong.

1)Observed? Cretin!! Legal/Aboriginal; that is all I could do. It's out of my hands.
2)Warrant? What is a 'warrant' blow fly? Stop overdosing on your Inspector Lynley Mysteries. ( No Law and Order for Thatchers Boy!).
3) Thank-you for your brown nosing reference to Kjibby:-
Posted by Ginx, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 5:58:19 PM
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"I suspect that Ginx has attributed someone else's statements to me." (Quote: Kjibby.)

Is that a fact?

Would you like me to copy/paste SEVERAL of your posts on indigenous Australians, where you seem to require them to 'turn white' to be acceptable? It is such a running theme, that another poster mentioned it!

No jibby, I got the quote right. It is typical of your posts as I've said. BUTTT...; at least you have the decency to apologize to one indigenous Australian. A good start.
Posted by Ginx, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 5:59:06 PM
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I think you lot should get a room and leave this debate to those who wish to debate the issues.

The fact is that if they are pleased with the prime minister of today saying sorry for the governments of yesteryears actions, then let it be. Just don't make this generation pay for past generations actions unless you see fit to compensate everyone who has been effected by such actions of their predecessors.

Remember they also sent inocent men,women and boys to wars to be slaughtered. Do we compensate these families? If so, where do we draw the line?

I for one agree with many of the posts, esspecially the one about whitnessing a traffic accident. Very well put and quite simply shows that one can be sorry to the victom for what has happened but is not personally sorry for something they had nothing to do with.

I am sure this was John Howards mindset and the mindset of millions of Australians.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 7:04:13 PM
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Zilmia, You did state” I totally resent your opening statement with the words that "I claim to be of the SG".” Well lets check your past postings;

I am an indigenous woman who is a part of the Stolen Generation.I was stolen frm my mother while she was asleep, I was 6yrs old, & I remember the events clearly.
Posted by zilmia, Saturday, 23 February 2008 10:01:10 AM

I am not half caste yet I was stolen from my family.
Posted by zilmia, Saturday, 23 February 2008 10:47:12 AM

I totally resent your opening statement with the words that "I claim to be of the SG".
Posted by zilmia, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 8:55:17 AM

I was for a long time myself a single parent and my daughter Gabrielle, (herself now a mother of two children) who I cared for since she was one year old, even last week phoned me making known she always think back about the morals I was teaching her, and she is glad I had done so.
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Now, you claimed your mother was “asleep” when allegedly you were “stolen”. Now, something doesn’t sound right to me that your mother was asleep and someone could remove you. During the day I would not be asleep but look after the children and during the night when I was asleep the house was locked so no one could enter.
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Kevin Rudd had no position to apologise as Prime Minister, as the Government or for the Parliament, but that is another complicated story, other then to indicate he had no constitutional powers for this! He could apologise on his own behalf but that he could have done long ago!
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Fool those who rely upon hollow words!
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I feel sorry for Aboriginals as I do for others who suffer an injustice but I owe no apology for this. I feel sorry for the Iraqi’s who’s country our troops unconstitutionally invaded and murdered so many of them. Feeling sorry or having to say sorry are two different meanings. Don’t be fooled with words that have no meaning.
Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 11:07:20 PM
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