China may well devour Islam but in the mean time,they will use Islam to defeat the West.Russia have lots of oil and natural gas but the US is trapped in the Middle East with no choices.Russia is also a problem for us because they are about to sell new arms techology to Indonesia.China and Russia are two very powerful totalitarian states which freedom of the individual does not rate a mention when the power of their states are in question.

Notice how we have less freedoms where Islamic terrorism is concerned?We are slowly becoming like them and their totalitarian ways are very similar to China,Russia and the Nazis.

If climate change is real and becomes dramatic,then real global tensions will create a lot of instability whereby really powerful Nations like China will seize their opportunity to secure both energy and resources.The baby boomers have probably lived in the best of times.

It's amusing to watch Boazy wriggle. In the midst of an Islamophobic rant on another thread, he wrote:

"Now..is it not the law of the land NOT to make laws promoting particular religions? Or.. can a secular UNI make discriminatory provision for one religion but not others ? Yet in the 'prayer rooms at UWS' that 'line' has been crossed..or do you see it differently?"

I pointed out to Boazy that, in common with every other Australian university of which I'm aware, UWS has long had dedicated Christian chapels, colleges etc - and I provided reliable evidence to support that assertion. His argument above is, of course, shown to be entirely disingenuous at best.

In this thread, Boazy dissembles, firstly claiming he was actually talking about 'ablutions'... that he failed to mention. I don't suppose you'd have a verifiable reference for this 'ablutions' issue, would you Boazy? I only ask because this is the first we've heard pf this apparently culture-threatening phenomenon.

Boazy then reverts to form by launching into a gratuitous rant about child sex and ham sandwiches. This is the same guy who displayed a marked absence of sympathy for the victims in the recent thread about child abuse by Christian clergy.

Give us a break.

As for the other charming comments - I take Johnj's point about the unfortunate predictability of any thread to do with Islam in this forum. However, so long as you don't take them too seriously, I think that OLO's lunatic fringe are quite fun to engage with :)

Besides which, it's always nice to provide an alternative to the 'fear and loathing' brigade.

What a surprise! Boazy and all his other lunatic friends raving on as usual about the evil Muslims and other assorted conspiracy theories. What a pity Boazy's God isn't fighting for him in Iraq. Where is this big brave God of Boazy's? Has he fallen asleep? This God doesn't seem to be helping Bush or the other conservatives win this War on Terror.

Boazy and his type have been wrong about what's going on in the world for the last 2000 years and they'll continue to be wrong for the next 2000 years.

Coach,
In the very first posting on this thread, I think you have accurately and concisely put the situation into perspective. This is supported by the information posted by Phillip Tang.

I think it speaks volumes that no one has challenged what either of you said. Most likely because they cannot!

I hope you don't mind if I retain both postings for future reference.

Well done.

Saeed,

As a Christian, I wish those who agree with you well. (Christianity has and could again face a similar situation - indeed already does in some parts of the world).

But as you can see from many of the comments on your article, Muslims face an uphill battle. Racism is very deeply seated in this country, and the media are every ready to fan the flames.

And with the major political powers having decided that Islam is a convenient replacement for Communism, an enemy required in order to be a cover for Western plunder of the weak and to keep the mug punters at home under the thumb, what do you do? The powers want more fundamentalism and more terrorists. That is why they are working so hard to create more of both.

I can only suggest education about how the system works, education of Muslims and others. That is what I am trying to do within my own community, in my own small way.

...john

Peppy.... now that wasn't nice. "Lunatic"... "Evil" muslims....

err.. I don't recall calling Muslims "Evil".... "Islam"..now that is a different story, but please keep your facts straight.

Speaking of which......

John Koski.. you claim to be a Christian.. so.. I'll believe you, but also offer a bit if a prod in the Lords name.. about your terminology.

You.. (along with many others) used the word 'racism'... and I cannot for the life of me see why?

I've not mentioned 'race'...and I don't think others have..
"RACE" is about ethnicity.. "RELIGION" is about what people (of any ethnicity) believe.

So..if RELIGION should NOT be a part of this social equation (i.e. the issue of becoming well adjusted contributors to mainstream society) why... why is Saeed mentioning "Muslim" youth.. rather than 'youth'? It seems he is asking for some kind of special religion related treatment.. 'more youth centres'.. more exposure to the 'arts'..ok.. agreed..but why for 'MUSLIM' youth ? and not 'YOUTH'....

Do you see the problem ? If there are large concentrations of Muslim youth who have problems relating to society..why does he not suggest they embrace a 'mainstream' faith.. like Christianity. Lebanese Christians have NO trouble relating to mainstream society.

It seems to me that the problem is in the religious aspect itself.. rather than society.

JOHN.. perhaps you missed it..but during the Cronulla period, but one of the Muslim youth workers stated on national TV that Muslim youth regard themselves as SUPERIOR to Aussies and hate western values. How do you process that ?