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Embracing a moderate Islam : Comments

By Saeed Khan, published 7/9/2007

There are challenges and responsibilities to the integration of Australian Muslims that we must all share.

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Fair article - however I don't think that problems of "integration" are due to external pressures on Islam but the problem is the nature of Islam itself as an alien political and social movement hiding under the banner of a religion.

Islam comes with its own load of baggage and demands which makes integration (anywhere) very problematic for the rest of us - the non-Muslims.

Islam's beliefs and ideologies are diametrically different from Western (Australian) values:

1) Theocracy – State and mosque is an inseparable unity
2) Supremacy – Islam claims to be the only true Religion
3) Intolerance – Anti-Jewish and anti-Christian sentiments abound in their Qur’an

Just to name 3

It is that warped and inflexible religious slant that governs their mentality and behaviour.

It is impossible to live in harmony with such a group that CANNOT adapt nor change. It is un-islamic to negotiate or compromise. Their demands are Allah's demand - no ifs or buts.

This is NOT a racial issue since Muslims come from all races and most are born here. Many other races coped their share of criticism BUT never before did any alien group make such impossible demands on our way of life like Islam.

It is always "WE" who must change to accommodate "THEM". And if we don’t or can’t bend far enough for them, friction will always going to be we us – until Islam eventually obtains what it wants.

God help us and protect Australia!
Posted by coach, Friday, 7 September 2007 10:04:35 AM
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THINK WITH HUMAN FACE APEC - APEC SMALL VILLAGE ECONOMIES NEED APEC"S FOCUS.

HAS APEC FORGOTTEN IT"S VILLAGE FARMERS.

South East Asia an Overlooked Success - Farmers who have given up a source of their livelihood, where governments had succeeded in slashing poppy cultivation are struggling to find subsistance - livilhood - an income.

Alternative economic strategics required

We ALL have the knowledge to help DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

SHARE OUR pro-active knowledge!

We MUST PROBLEM SOLVE!

The border zone between Burma, Thailand and Laos that was once the world's most prolific supplier of opium, is still on conflict on issues of liberty and livilhood.

BURMA:Myanmar's 53 million people wish for support to restore civilian rule. Political roadmap needs to be as inclusive, participatory and transparent as possible.

Farmers have no income. More has to be done to find alternative crops and enterprises to help village farmers and their families.
Burma's "roadmap" is not working. Situation is still extremely fragile...

Displaced People in Burma Call for International Action and Economic Support.

GET UP AUSTRALIA - HELP APEC FIND FOCUS for APEC"S VILLAGE FARMERS

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Posted by miacat, Friday, 7 September 2007 1:25:00 PM
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coach - I think you have encaptulated my response perfectly. Nothing further need be said
Posted by foxydude, Friday, 7 September 2007 1:46:12 PM
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Coach and Foxydude

I agree with both Coach's post and Foxydudes summary.
Posted by bigmal, Friday, 7 September 2007 2:38:43 PM
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Why do we need anti-racism policies to protect Muslims,when often we are confronted by Islamic religious bigotry which threatens to murder all non believers?The media commentators are right,the moderates condone Islamic extremism by their silence.Silence to us is tacit approval.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 7 September 2007 5:55:31 PM
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When will we know that people have finally been 'integrated'? What does an 'integrated' person look like? Why does everyone have to be 'integrated'?

I think it should be left to the individual to decide how much they want or don't want to be integrated.

Meanwhile I think it's mainly a large segment of White Christian Australians (who've been [let's face it] living in one gigantic White Christian ghetto for far too long) who should be the focus of any 'integration' effort. They're the ones that need to be eased in to the realities of this world.
Posted by strayan, Friday, 7 September 2007 7:07:10 PM
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