IS “SECRET INFORMATION?” BEING DANGLED – FOR ELECTION

Andrews has stated he may reveal the secret information (causing Haneef's visa removal) in the next 18 hours.

If so I'd guess it might relate to one or two things:

(1). More likely related to Haneef possibly fiddling the books (corruption) (common in many circles and) unrelated to terrorism. Yesterday's report http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Gold-Coast-Haneef-associate-suspended/2007/07/30/1185647823104.html :

A Gold Coast doctor (Dr Mohamed Ali) who worked alongside Haneef has been suspended from his job.

"A Queensland Health spokeswoman revealed director general Uschi Schreiber had suspended Dr Mohamed Ali with pay, after receiving information from Queensland Police...

[Haneef and Ali] were both recruited from Liverpool in England and sponsored on 457 work visas by Queensland Health and worked at the Gold Coast Hospital.

[this TIMING may be significant] The spokeswoman said Dr Ali was suspended on Friday evening, around the same time Dr Haneef was freed from Wolsten Correctional Centre as a terrorism charge against him was dropped."

- the Government was finding it too POLITICLY embarrassing to hold Haneef any longer even if it did want to try him or fine him for non terrorism related reasons

- if Ali was doing the same thing there has been an unequal Government response. By the Government orchestrating the timing and Haneef’s motivation it removed the likelihood of Haneef seeking his visa, merely being suspended with pay (like Ali) and remaining in the country.

Now Haneef has been removed there goes the Government’s POLITICAL PROBLEM.

(2) The other scenerio is that "A senior source confirmed yesterday that emails between Dr Haneef and his cousins, Kafeel and Dr Sabeel Ahmed, in Britain were now seen as possible evidence." http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22112617-5006301,00.html Such “evidence” may not relate at all to terrorism but for Andrews to remove Haneef’s visa.

All is mysterious. It will be even more interesting what political SPIN the Government places on the evidence.

I’d say DISCREDITTING Haneef, and by association Beattie and the Opposition equals more VOTES for Coalition.

Pete

Frank Gol, the two ladies in question Rau and Alveraz were simply excuses used by the "civil "libertarians to further their hatred of John Howard. You know it, we know it.
A columnist used the words "political antagonism' to explain the hostility behind all the bleeding heartism that is crippling this country with sheer divisiveness .
I am not sure that civil libertarian's hatred of Howard is not equalled by their hatred of Australia and all it stands for. Or what sort of tyranny they would replace our democracy with. I hope never to find out.

Well after all that hullabaloo it wasn't John Howard that said the
SIM card was in the 4WD at Glascow Airport !

It was Scotland Yard, oh dear oh dear how embarressing.

What a lot of dick heads, raving on just being so impatient to have a
go at the government that they couldn't wait to see what the truth
might be.

Next time they are having a rant, just remember this incident then
go and take a Bex and have a nice lie down.

Bazz

I think it is you who should have several bex.

If you can't see political fingerprints all over this, you must be what you call others.

There are two issues, the AFP investigation and the Visa. The AFP stuffed up. Andrews used it to try to gain political advantage - and he still is.

This has a way to go, Howard will have to face parliament next week. :)

mickijo, you claim that 'the two ladies in question Rau and Alveraz (sic) were simply excuses used by the "civil" libertarians to further their hatred of John Howard.'

So what are you saying: that it was the civil libertarians who illegally and brutishly incarcerated Cornelia Rau and deported Vivien Solon Alverez just to hate Howard some more?

I notice you're silent on the two white Australian male journalists, Gerard McManus and Michael Harvey, whose cause has been taken up by civil libertarians.

Listen to your own voice mickijo: '...'the hostility behind all the bleeding heartism that is crippling this country with sheer divisiveness'...'civil libertarian's hatred of Howard is... equalled by their hatred of Australia and all it stands for'.

Can you hear it? It sound hateful, divisive, extreme language to me. I wonder if you aren't creating a bit of a wreck in Australia all by yourself?

You speculate on'... what sort of tyranny [civil libertarians] would replace our democracy with. I hope never to find out'. That's the sort of perversity that's becoming everyday parlance in Australia where right wing leaders use words like 'choice' and 'freedom' when they mean the exact opposite. It's like saying that lambs plan to slaughter lions.

If Australia ever became a thorough-going autocratic state I hope there are enough civil libertarians left to campaign for your liberty to be restored. I'm sure those who are left would forgive your foolish misapprehension about who the real contemporary enemies of democray in times are. Rest assured, civil libertarians 'will stand up for an ordinary non muslim white Australian' like you, if your rights are being trampled on by an authoritarian government.

"That's the sort of perversity that's becoming everyday parlance in Australia where right wing leaders use words like 'choice' and 'freedom' when they mean the exact opposite."

FrankGol, I don't want to agree with your statement but I must. The only thing I would pick you up on is that it's not just the "right wing leaders" - it is the ideology of the fundamentalist right wing neo-liberal movement.

I would prefer a more centrist approach, even if to get dialog happening - and maybe this is where Rudd is coming from and why he is perceived as a better option for Australia's future.

The sad thing, Howard may well go down in history as being one of the most non-visionary PMs we have ever had overseeing demonstrable backward human rights issues, both here and abroad.

I can't help but think the 'new' sedition laws are but fascism in disguise.