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Keeping Australia safe by an improper exercise of power? : Comments

By Surya Deva, published 27/7/2007

It is time the Australian Government showed some character in protecting the human rights of its citizens and non-citizens living in Australia legally.

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Leigh,
There is an old saying "it is better for people to think you are a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it" I'll probably pay the penalty for this, but Leigh you are a fool!
Posted by SHONGA, Monday, 30 July 2007 12:18:44 PM
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Ozbib

In reply, what do you think should have happened to Dr Hanef initially? In other words what should happen the next time something similar happens? I would be interested in what you think, without making any reference to what the facts exposed in the end.
What should the police do next time a person is fund in a simialr situation to Dr Haneef?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by ozzie, Monday, 30 July 2007 12:56:38 PM
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If you never read my posts, as you advised on Saturday 28th. July, why are you commenting on a post I made today? Did you have a vision that I posted and thought that you should comment? Or, are you a liar? Has to be one or the other, old son.

And what was that you were saying about fools
Posted by Leigh, Monday, 30 July 2007 1:33:04 PM
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There is an extordinary amount of igorance shown in comments on this
matter. The government has no part in the prosecution or police actions.

The only place where the government operates is in immigration matters.

A lot of noise is being made about the Immigration minister not
revealing everything he knows.

Hasn't anyone other than me thought that perhaps it is the British
police that have supplied the information and it is their decision if it
is to be kept confidential ?

What a carry on; the charges were dropped when it was discovered
that some important evidence was wrong and the immigration had held him
in the meantime until it was decided the charges were dropped.
What is improper with that ?

For heaven's sake wake up to yourselves, take a Bex and have a nice lie down.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 30 July 2007 2:20:28 PM
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If the ALP win the next election, there will be no more Haneefs, no more Hicks, no more crying over drug smugglers getting themselves hung ..and there will be no more civil libertarians because the whole lot of these sensational throw ups have been about getting John Howard out and Labor in.
With the ALP in power there will be open door immigration, then the end of the Australia as we know it.
Incidentally, the civil libertarians will be no loss, they never but never appear to stand up for an ordinary non muslim white Australian, a totally loathed breed to them.
Posted by mickijo, Monday, 30 July 2007 3:12:13 PM
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With characteristic calm reasonableness and mountains of evidence, mickijo says:

"With the ALP in power there will be open door immigration, then the end of the Australia as we know it." (S)truth overboard!

He obviously doesn't know much about the respective roles of the ALP and the Coalition parties in the history of Australian immigration. Labor (traditionally the party of workers) has strenuously opposed immigration over the years while the right-wing parties (traditionally the party of big business) have encouraged it. As we speak, immigration is at an all-time high at a time when the Howard Government (using the rhetoric of an alleged skills shortage) is trying to cut wages and diminish the power of unions.

Mass migration frightens trade unions and workers because of fear of having their jobs usurped. Business owners and company managers relish mass migration because of the prospect of plentiful cheap labour and growth in the market of consumers. The economic argument for the old White Australia Policy was most strongly voiced by the ALP and the unions. It was the Coalition which began the process of dismantling iWhite Australia. And post-war mass migration (although initiated by the declining ALP in 1949) was stimulated by the Coalition throughout the 1950s and 60s and again in the second part of the 90s and on to today.

Coming closer to the present day, you will recall that it was the ALP which introduced mandatory detention of asylum seekers. And last week, when decency and principle were desperately needed, what did the ALP do about Dr Haneef? Agreed with Howard, Ruddock and Andrews.

mickijo ends with a feeble whimper: "the civil libertarians...never but never appear to stand up for an ordinary non muslim white Australian, a totally loathed breed to them".

I don't suppose Cornelia Rau and Vivien Alvarez Solon were exactly the sort of 'non muslim white Australian' mickijo had in mind? OK, what about journalists Gerard McManus and Michael Harvey?

More chip on the shoulder than chip in the brain.
Posted by FrankGol, Monday, 30 July 2007 4:48:36 PM
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