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Muslim leaders must speak out against radicalisation : Comments

By Anthony Bergin and Jacob Townsend, published 10/7/2007

We should be encouraging Australian Muslims to participate in Australian society and politics.

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I am tryin to remember at which school age I did learn that 3000 of 300,000 is 1% and not 10%.
Even if, the report, as I read it does not state whether these youth are pursuing Orthodoxy Islam (ie self improvement Jihad) or the militant Jihad.
Anyhow, trying to reason with the lynch mob is as easy as teaching a fish how to bicycle.

Kaktuzy,

A simple clear question:

How many nutty jihadists are there? 10, 20, 100 thousands?

How many Mystic/ sufi Muslims are there? 150, 180, 200 Millions?

So if an average person with no baggage or prejudice wants to make a call on Islam. Which one do you think is more reflective: the 0.1 % or the 18-20%?
Get the grey cells working..:)

Peace as always,
Posted by Fellow_Human, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 1:08:10 PM
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If there are only 3000 nutty Jihadis in Australia, then you would imagine there are many more "non-nuts" to help dissuade them from their path. Where are these helpful Muslims when you need them? Are some of these the numerous friends/relatives/associates/neighbours who refused to help the cops stop the "Leb-style" gang rapists in Western Sydney? Are these the Community Leaders who endlessly excuse the "Anti-Skippies" rhetoric of these young blokes; the leaders who, instead of announcing that these nitwits are a few bad apples they are ashamed of, persist in denying they ARE bad apples, thereby confirming that they (the leaders) are not ashamed.Note that I don't write it "leaders" with inverted commas, trying to imply that they are failing in their job. This role is EXACTLY what they are fulfilling as they let all these miscreants off the hook; to reenforce the Muslim Community's belief that they are the "special ones" beyond Australian Law, Custom and Social Norms. Cheers..
Posted by punter57, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 2:23:18 PM
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Punter 57,

Good post.

Their leaders are doing their job, spewing hatred to their youth in mosques, then calling us racists when we respond to the inherent racism of their cultures!?!

Arranged marriages! Come on people, xenophobia means Islam, it means the non-west.

Even our genetics show we mixed the most, which is why we all look so different with blue eyes, brown eyes, blonde hair, and so on.

Not so with non-whites. Racist to the core, arranged marriages, kids married off to elders in tribal societies, and so on.

Get real. We allow everyone in to our countries, which I think is dumb given that crime and violence are part of some non-western cultures, especially filthy third world ones.

But unlike what Indians believe (with their caste system - they should be bombed for this) the potential of every human being is the same. It's ones culture that causes problems. Which is why there are no Muslim nobel prize winners and that whole region is a dump.

They're ethics are rubbish.
Posted by Benjamin, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 3:37:40 PM
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While multi culturalism has proven a dismal failure as can be seen by the infiltration of terriost and terriost sympathizers, still by far the most dangerous place to be alive in Australia is in a mother's womb.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 3:39:18 PM
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When we hear of fighting between so called insurgents and others, it has become the norm for the insurgents to shelter behind, or take as hostages to shoot from behind, women and children.
To the Western mind this is the most cowardly ,basest way for anyone to fight a war.
Yet it appears to be the norm to the muslim mind, the latest example being the Red Mosque in Pakestan where the lives of hundreds of women and girls are at enormous risk.
This is just another proof that the muslim and the westerner will never live as one. What they see as normal, we see as loathesome and vice versa.
We share nothing in common, we should not have to share our lives.
Posted by mickijo, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 3:43:57 PM
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There may be only 300,000 Muslims in Australia but they have successfully created no-go areas for the rest of us in South West Sydney. Whether there are 10,000 or 30,000 potential Jihadists is not the issue here. The issue is not many of the 300,000 condemned the London fanatics, the Madrid bombers or 9/11. This community also actively supports Hezbollah whose agenda is to get everyone into an Iranian style backwater. I did not detect much outcry over Bali either.
Let us hear some support for Australia; surely the sectarian Turkish community has something to say. In the link provided by Phillip Tang the radicals are referred to as bearded Billy goats. This is the rhetoric the Muslim community needs to use rather than maintain their silence.
Posted by SILLE, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 4:08:07 PM
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