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Muslim leaders must speak out against radicalisation : Comments

By Anthony Bergin and Jacob Townsend, published 10/7/2007

We should be encouraging Australian Muslims to participate in Australian society and politics.

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This was a really good article.

There are only a few things I'd comment on, although I completely agree with basically everything the writer has stated.

I wonder if the author of the report stating there would be around 3000 potential jihadists in south western Sydney alone, Mustafa Karim Ali, will be labelled an Islamophobe?

One of the major problems we face is that although non-Muslims have been saying similar things for years, they are labelled fear-mongers, for reporting on such facts.

I think all would have to agree that if there are 3000 potential jihadists, there must be a sea they swim in of those with lesser sentiment. It is this I think we haven't even begun to face, that is, the extreme xenophobia, racism, we see spewing forth from the Muslim community in general.

Tanveer Ahmed has admitted anti-western sentiment, racism, and hatred of 'white sluts' were prominent themes when he was growing up. I believe this general sentiment also made it possible for Australia to witness it's first ever racially motivated pack rapes - although the Islamic community have brought with them a large number of 'never before seen' crimes.

I would also add that when people are shocked that the recent Muslim terrorists are doctors, they see it from a western viewpoint. Other cultures/religions have vastly different ethics to us, one would imagine that would be clear now but some refuse to acknowledge this reality.

Non-western values are barbaric, backward, cold, and sometimes evil.

Operation Pendennis was met with fury by Muslim leaders I recall, again, showing that the bulk of Muslims view such would-be killers as heroes for the Islamic cause.

On isolation, the writer surely is referring to Muslims self-imposed isolation out of their belief Muslims are superior to dirty kufr. This explains why the good folk at Cronulla were abused, spat at, told to get out of the rockpools - so the angry young Muslim males could have their burqa clad wives swim uncontaminated.

Think about how vile their racism is!
Posted by Benjamin, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 9:54:17 AM
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Muslims have no place in western democracies. They should stay in the Muslim states where they can practice their religion free of western contamination. They will be free to rape anyone not under a burqha and carry out honour killings without censure.
It is about time they were held up to ridicule, the half cooked doctor in Glasgow opening gas cylinders in the back of his burning vehicle while he is being hosed down is more of a clown than Muslim assassin. The mufti who ran away from the red mosque in Islamabad under a burqha with the women should feel a little embarrassed.
Posted by SILLE, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 10:53:54 AM
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...continued from above...

On the use of internet technology, I think it's disgusting that Muslim radicals use our western inventions to bring about their desire to impose backward Arabian values.

Don't they feel hypocritical? Living in the west, using our tolerance - something Islam believes is dhimmitude.

I mentioned that such extremists can only pop up due to a sea of racist sentiment in the Muslim community, which manifests itself in numerous ways - welfare fraud, rorting Christian charities, as well as Muslim thugs bashing Anglo's for sport.

Not to mention racially motivated pack rapes.

Although it is impossible to stamp out such bigotry as it is an inherent part of Abrab culture - backed up by Islamic values that deem non-Muslims as 'inferiors', we have to do something for our streets are no-go zones in some places.

The new Mufti won't condemn Bin Laden. Where are the protests you ask?

There will be none for likely all but half a dozen Muslims support such sentiment, again, showing their inherent xenophobia.

This is why they have arranged marriages. Any culture that engages in that practice is at it's core racist.

Great article.
Posted by Benjamin, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:11:28 AM
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Now the rednecks have had their go let's get back to reality. Bridges are best built from both sides of the river. The religious aspects of this issue really are a furfee and the sooner we get past that the closer we will be to solving the problem.
Posted by Kenny, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 1:34:30 PM
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It is well past the time when our immigration laws need revision. The rules for citizenship also need to be turned right around. Anyone coming to live in Australia should sign a contract that they will adhere strictly to AUSTRALIAN law and if they breach that law they are to be deported without appeal.
Immigrants should not be chosen from any country where the rule of the gun has been the only rule. Hatreds and the lust for power has been ingrained into many ethnic people, we do not need them and their hatreds here. Keep them out for the sake of all the Australian populace.
The expense of keeping these extremists under surveillence will be an ongoing one because they will never add anything to our country but hate and disorder.We do not need them.
Posted by mickijo, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 2:36:59 PM
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With all due respect to the authors, this article completely misses the point.

The point is that Muslim's who are attracted to terrorism, by whatever means, are motivated by normal human responses to stimulus. The bulk of Australian society, your average aussie, has been dispossed of his/her normal response to stimulus - decades of political correctness gone mad have seen to that. Any genuine reaction risks labelling as 'red neck', 'racist' or whatever the latest epithet happens to be.

Last week a Scottish baggage handler spoke for the dispossessed when he said, "We are not having that here."

I do not advocate a violent reaction, but for God's sake let's stop wringing our hands and trying to see the other side's point of view.

Let's display a little attitude!
Posted by Del, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 2:52:23 PM
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