Fuhrer Boaz,

There is only one side to genocide: its genocide. Murdering 6 million Jews or 800,000 civilian in Rwanda have no justification or ‘buts’ or ‘if’.

“grasping onto anything I say so it can be twisted and rebranded as some kind of extremism”

I don’t need to do that you were caught by many other posters “grasping and twisting” facts about Islam and Muslims to incite fear and hate. Your own actions and comments “branded you”. Here is a sample:
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=5905#82871
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=5905#82883
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=5905#82904

You had over 3600 comments over 2 years with the sole purpose of inciting fear and hate towards Australian Muslims. That’s over 2400 pages! Just face it you are a Nazi in denial.
I am not a lawyer but I don’t think what you are doing is legal in this country.

Rhian,

Jesus' words in Matthew 16:

17Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.

18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Jesus is talking about a spiritual church, not an empire, not buildings and cathedrals, no real rocks, but people and souls.

Jesus is the foundation rock of His Church.

Jesus loves His Church like a bride.

Christians are One body, Jesus as the Head…is another illustration.

How would you otherwise explain the explosive growth of the church in China (some say 80 million)?

No buildings, no State support, and plenty perssecussion.

It is important to research the meanings of the metaphores before jumping to "secular' conclusions.

Thank you for this article Hossein Esmaeili. As a non-Muslim who has grown up with many who pracitice this faith I've at times been very puzzled by the weight the media gives to some voices who are proclaimed to be speaking for all Muslims.

I had never experienced all Muslims being represented like this in secular countries before.

Could it be because most Australians have mainly had experience with Christianity and know that every sect has a spokesperson who speaks with complete unquestioned authority for all and presume that Islam must be the same?

Fellow Human, Boazy is on a mission, but don't forget Coach. He hates it when you ignore him and is consequently trying to write with even more spaces than Boazy. At least he uses fewer capital letters. Both of them are beginning to sound boring trotting out the same hoary old statements.

Neither of them are an authority on Christianity, a faith they profess to live by and they certainly have even less authority on Islam.

It's too bad this thread deteriorated into religion vs. religion Vs. anti-religion. I thought the author made some very important and supportable thinking in regards to law and was rather hoping some discussion would be forth coming on the topic aside from there being a Mufti or not. We seem to have lost sight of what are the doings of the office of Mufti with in Islam. And why that office ought to be made redundant in some Muslim and secular eyes.

YVONNE...

Heyyyyy wait a minute there. I am trained you know. I didn't use 3 yrs of my life studying Greek, Old and New testaments, Culture, Anthropology and sociology for nading you know.

Regarding Islam ? I don't know how much of an 'authority' one needs to be, but my training in the other areas certainly qualifies me to comment on Islamic texts, especially when I provide sources and use the same methods which people use to interpret our own constitution.

Did you pick up on FH.s wild hysterical claim "You are trying to cause fear and hate against ALL Muslims"

FH. when have I said 'hate muslims' ? I've told you many times of my affection for some Muslims I meet. An Iranian at my gym is a prime example. Another at my other gym named 'mohammad' is another.

I am definitely critical ISLAM and MOHAMMAD. and on grounds which are used to also criticize Hitler Musselini, and Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Tze Tung and other tyrants.

If you wish to 'spin' that as 'You want everyone to hate and fear Muslims' then.... how can I stop you ?

Another one of my 'mantras' has been "Radicals drive agendas" and I've always made a distinction between 'radicals' and 'moderates' something I learned from reading the judgement of the CTF case.
So, nothing illegal about what I'm doing.

There IS something ILLEGAL in the Quran, and that is sura 9:30
calling for destruction of Christians (a religion) and JEWS ( A race)
and you can bet that I will be raising awareness about this on every level available.
Its my democratic and constitutional right, and a social/spiritual responsibility.
*peace*

ps. I cannot point to a syllable in the Bible which calls for the destruction of Muslims. OR for violence against non Christians by Christians in this life. Judgement though, will surely come to all at the Last day.
PSS. Islam is your choice. In making that choice, you must inevitably accept the baggage which comes with a faith which condemns and calls for the destruction of other faiths and races.

Boaz,

“Did you pick up on FH.s wild hysterical claim "You are trying to cause fear and hate against ALL Muslims"
The Pot calling the kettle black : -)
‘Hysterical’ is for those who use the upper case, dozens of exclamation marks or slanting other’s for no reason.

Anyway, on topic,

My argument is that you are inciting fear, hatred and eventually violence against Muslims in Australia for the following clear distinct reasons:

- As a missionary, you know that most Muslims practice Islam as per sites I referred you to earlier. The version you use is based around character assassination of the prophet pbuh was developed during the crusades by French missionaries. Most Muslims either don’t know it or just dismiss it as it contradicts the Quran.
- Unlike other un-informed mob, you are doing that on purpose and intentional. You got caught by a number of members such as in the links above. Your reaction is to duck and weave and re-post the lies on a new thread.
- There is no difference between inciting fear and hate of Islam and Muslims. If an average person on the street fears Islam, then they will fear Muslims then they will hate them. Violence against them will be the natural next step of the snow ball effect.
- There is no difference between fear, hate and violence: its basic human psychology. If you followed the news and analysts, terror masterminds and their recruiters brainwash naïve young Muslims exactly the way you do: that all the Christian west is conspiring to take over, kill and destroy all Muslims so lets get to them first. Your actions are an exact copy of what the Terror masterminds do. Your actions can only inspire violence against Muslims.

Who are you to judge a faith anyway? You have no authority to speak of Islam or Christianity. I know Christianity is a beautiful tolerant faith and I am proud of my Christian and Jewish friends. Perhaps Taliban is a better fit for you.

Peace,