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Australian Muslims have no need for a mufti : Comments
By Hossein Esmaeli, published 27/6/2007The office of mufti in Australia is not necessary and should, under no circumstances, be officially recognised in Australia.
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Posted by Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:44:09 PM
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Fellow_Human,
I must have stumbled on a sensitive nerve there about Deedat and you. I did not mean to waste another post on that dead clown… (Oops, another Freudian slip. Sorry) let alone watch his unsubstanciated vitriolic Christian-bashing videos again. I object the title 'theologian' beeing used on someone like Deedat; I reserve that honour for people who would know the real God and not just the one portrayed in the Qur'an. All I can say for the likes of Deedat is repeat Jesus blessing for his killers as He was dying on the cross: “forgive them Father for they know not what they do”. If you, Mohammad or Deedat knew who Jesus is (not was) you wouldn’t try to challenge Him or His Bible. Your misconception of who God really is allows you to have a go at Jesus and other gods. Your little understanding of God - through Mohammad’s alleged revelations - is incomplete, therefore you are lacking the entire picture. Your view of God is still so limited and pre-historic (BC). Your "theology" is quite ambitious, admirable, but not there yet. Converts from Islam to Christianity admit that they always thought that they were worshipping the real God, but now that they discover the actual fullness, saving grace, love, intimacy of God, they feel 'home' at last. No more need for rituals of kissing stones or washing and wiping anymore. They are now saved, completely cleansed, and will never face God’s judgement reserved for the unbelievers (those who don’t accept God’s Son Jesus as Lord and only Saviour). FH, Mohammad can’t save you. Your prayers won’t save you. Can I add Deedat wont save you either. Only Jesus! As the Bible tells us.. You do respect the Bible, don’t you? If yes, you must believe what it says too. Starting with Jesus death on the cross… Posted by coach, Saturday, 7 July 2007 6:04:00 PM
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Coach,
“If you, Mohammad or Deedat knew who Jesus is (not was) you wouldn’t try to challenge Him or His Bible” . Please re-read the topic again: It was Anis Sorrosh who challenged Deedat and not the opposite way around. Sorrosh claimed Islam is a ‘sect of Christianity and not a religion of its own’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcMzHgq2zRo “You do respect the Bible, don’t you? If yes, you must believe what it says too. Starting with Jesus death on the cross” Islam and Christianity are one of the same with the only difference being the nature of Jesus pbuh. We have a lot more in common to bring us closer together but you keep focusing on our only difference. Muslims beliefs are not different than unitarian christians on the issue of crucifix. Here is an explanation of our beliefs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGXxgnJnrMI Peace as always, Posted by Fellow_Human, Sunday, 8 July 2007 12:27:03 AM
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There appear to be a misconception about what I am about.
As I made clear it doesn’t worry me what a mufti is about as long as he is within Australian law. This means, if he preaches violence or other unlawful conduct against Australians then he clearly is in breach of Australian law.
Sheik Halali was a mufti who was much condemned by many Australians, including many Muslims, for daring to say that British were lairs (or something of that meaning).
The truth is they are, and a lot more deceptive then Hilali stated, and in my books I have set this out, so to say, in chapter and verse. Just, as I am not a Muslim I can do so and no one take much disturbance to this albeit they should.
Look at Dodo website showing a bikini clad female when I log into the Internet. Excuse me, I can do without this, and do not feel it appropriate for such display. Hence, I intend to move to another server. When Hilali made a comment that basically seemed to come across that females were parading as such invited rapes, he did not appear to me to say women should be raped but rather warned against such appearances. As a Father and grand father many times over I detest such display of women flesh. It is one thing for a woman to be in a bikini at the beach, and I could not care less then about it but to have this kind of nearly naked parading on television, bill boards, etc is in my view unacceptable. Yet, often the very women getting highly paid for this years later accuse the companies for having used them as sex symbols. Get the message?
While the can earn good money their conscious doesn’t bother them but when they are over-the-hill they blame others.
I view Hilali, as an Australian, had every right to speak up, and I for one in those issues did not consider he spoke out of tone.
Politicians should have stayed out of it.