All I have been saying.. could not be better summarized by some Muslims themselves.

KEITH.. are you out there mate ? reading ? Logic ? :)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4813382.html

[Some said the fighting showed the power-sharing deal only papered over the disputes between Hamas and Fatah. "The Mecca agreement didn't get into the deep-rooted divisions between Hamas and Fatah," said Saudi writer Khalid al-Dakhil.
Those who signed onto the deal at Mecca knew it faced opposition from extremists on both sides, said Abdel-Bari Atwan, editor-in-chief of the London-based newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabi.]

Key words:

-deep rooted divisions
-extremists
-both sides

*bingo*.... and the blood flows on.

I see the ultimate proof of integration is the % of eligible Australians in the armed services.

Do we have confidence that all groupings will answer the call if Australia ever needs it?

What about the inequality of the sexes? Males totally dominatre some groups, unfortulately with terrible results. Probably there would be less bloodshed if women ran countries (hopefully)

A deeply religious person on TV said without religion, there would be fornicatrion in the streets! Perhaps so, but at least there wouldn't be bloodshed in the streets. Look how many religious conflicts there are worldwide.

Lets make sure it doesn't happen here in Australia.

“Fornicatrion in the streets” happens where religious bigots demonstrate their clergy will openly.

“Lets make sure it doesn't happen here in Australia” – self-assurance of accepting Judo-Christian grounding values by Muslims ticking this answer during naturalization test is a next nowadays stupidity demonstrated most recently by national-liberal Anglo-racists keeping their both castles in the UK and offspring employed overseas either

Michael- can you use shorter and cleared sentences- I am old and thick

Wish you get well soon on merits your natural age allows, of course.

Is it CLEARed sentence

The statement; Positive Muslim integration is possible. Allows for a successful probability. Which then begs the question. Is positive Muslim acceptance possible. No matter how diligently one conforms to be accepted there has to be acceptance. Muslims must make some compromise in their religious social dictation and mainstream Australians must be more encouraging in helping all Muslims in their effort to successfully integrate and respond holistically to societal values and laws already established for the benefit and protection of everyone.
It shouldn't be an us or them proposition instigated by either side.