You know numbat,
Your tirade is very interesting from a number of perspectives. You are an angry man who has found a outlet for your frustraion in life through these attacks on any perspective that you find threatening. Your unhappiness is based on issues relating to your early years and whilst that may have been unfair; thats life. I won't go on but while your name evokes a mentlly dead bat hanging upside down, it is no where near as powerful as your dribblings!

Netab: You view of me has shattered me no sleep for me tonight!:-)
Read the flamin book which I call the hate filled terrorist hand book, GO ON READ IT! Then look at ANY moslem country and what do you see out of your pure eyes? Then go to any Western democratic free country where these hate filled death loving misogynistic people have settled go on just look at them and tell us all just what you really see. Regards, numbat PS. Your not one of them are you sport?

CJ Morgan, David Boaz and Coach: thank you very much for the welcome and the assistance.

Generally: I'm new to this kind of communication and find it rather tempestuous. What I've particularly noticed about the conflicting posts, apart from their colour and ferocity, is the common interest in knowing the facts. Everyone seems to know some (even a lot). If there were some way of pooling the facts (not just assertions, but properly sourced), we could all do each other a great favour. But, perhaps this is not plausible: I'm sure it's been attempted.

Globally speaking, I definitely associate Islam with trouble - ie with hatred of everything that is not "perfect" Islam. I'm not sure how to avoid making this connection (and I'm open to suggestions, provided they take into account the fairly gross facts everyone is aware of). In Australia, the issue is newer and smaller, and there is a fond hope that we won't go the way the globe has gone. If the Government and the general population do nothing, I suppose the situation will detiorate: why wouldn't it? But, I don't want the remedial action to be as ugly as what it's directed at. I think some serious ingenuity is required, to work out how to communicate with a subculture that hates, is hated, is feared and is very likely afraid.

Is there a general interest in solutions, or am I guilty of uttering Soft Folly?

Regards,

GoodThief

Numbat,

Yes I read the Quran since I was 10 and teach it to my kids.
And yes I read the Bible (new Van Dyck Bible 2002 published by the Bible society of Egypt). And yes, it stacks up even to MAD magazine and Archie.
I can see now who is only googling stuff.

Coach,

Thanks I can finally see the light.
Why didn't I think of that before: non-Muslims (ie you) should reform Islam for us!.
Keep it up maybe one day we will have twice as much holidays for Christmas and easter to celebrate the 2 sons of God!

I envy you, my sense of humour gets rusty everynow and then but you are a natural :)

You are a serious nasty piece of work because you are an arab speaker and you can read many sources on the internet about Islamic reforms.
Well, I guess dishonesty can become a religion sometimes.

Salam,

Ahhhhhhhh, did I hear the squeak of a numbat in the background? As a paid up member of the constipated christian clowns association on this forum, I was expecting a performance from you and I got one. Exhortations to the Koran, accompanied by hissing and spitting dialogue on the machinations of the Dark Vada Muslims. It conjurs up images of nightmare and apocolyptic conflict that will herald the end days; if thats not enough there is the machination of the UN to create a world government.

But numbat, it doesn't end there and so no wonder you need those little pills that your GP prescribes. Am I one of 'them' - yes, I am, I'm an Australian citizen and whether I'm Muslim, Mick, Prod or Buddhist is irrelevant to my citizenship

Fellow Human: I can see how non-Muslims reforming Islam would be awkward (if you will excuse the understatement). How, then, is Islam to be reformed? Might it happen soon? Do you agree it needs to be reformed?