Coach,

You quoted:
"You read the Bible (so you say) but you are teaching your children the Qur’an. I find that hypocritical – why do you deprive your children of the source of God's revelation and truth on which your Qur’an is supposedly based on?"

The simple answer is the Qu'ran accepts Jesus as a prophet (as well as the israelites prophets and the Torah)and his followers as a faith and they do have rights of good neighbouring and good treatement. According to the Bible all those who don't accept Jesus (Jews, Muslims, Miscellaneous) are pagans and will rot in hell.

Please refer me to where in the Bible where it says that Jews and Muslims are 'people of the book'and Mohammed is a prophet.

Until then, au revoir,

Fellow Human, I'm sure you know the Bible doesn't use that language. But, it does require every Xian to "love their neighbour" etc. No exceptions, whether they're of the Book or not. This is not an inferior ethic.

Hi Goodthief,

I know the bible says love your neighbour as you love yourself.
My comment to coach was comparing a 'likes to likes'that the Quran for us muslims is the word of God and it says çlearly that Jesus is a miracle prophet and that his followers have rights.

there is no 'clear statement' like that in the bible.
If you ask Coachy, he will tell you only Christians can go to heaven.

Anyway, I believe religions only mirrors what people have on the inside. You seem to be inherently a good person and its great chating with reasonable people.

Fellow Human: Thank you. Ditto. Now back to the fray.

If I continue to misunderstand your exchange with coach, I'm sorry and will back away. Meanwhile, I still think the love commandment is as clear a statement as you could want. It operates comprehensively and at every level - momentary, long-term, personal, cultural, governmental - so I don't think it is necessary that anyone receives a special mention. If you're human, you qualify. This is why part of the Xian view of Islam is bemusement: according to us, the Arab people were already included in the deal, so no further correspondence was necessary.

I'm not as unlike coach as you might think. I'm a completely dogmatic Xian - "no way to heaven except via Jesus" etc. But, while I believe the Xian Church is under instructions to convert the unconverted (for their sake, not as a hobby), I also believe that evangelism has to be consistent with love - eg the exercise should not be contaminated by other agendas and there should be respect for the person you address as an individual and not a type, even respect for their freedom to say No. I believe Jesus issued an invitation (a pressing invitation), not a summons.

What, still no apology Boaz?

>>The virginia Uni massacre.. done by a Muslim? "Ismail X"<<

Your purpose was unmistakable. To turn a personal family tragedy into an emblem of your own hatred of Islam, and to encourage others to think likewise.

You even succeeded, as evidenced by Arjay's response to your whistle:

>>Cho Seung Ho's Ming was probably very disturbed way before he discovered Islam.Islam was probably the catalyst that justified his hate spurred on by isolationism and feeling inferior<<

Given that in the week that has followed there has been not the slightest skerrick of evidence to back your insinuation, that has given you plenty of time to submit a correction.

Here's a template that you have my permission to use:

"I am genuinely sorry if I gave the impression that the Virginia massacre was the work of Islamic extremists. Unfortunately, I occasionally become overzealous in expressing my hatred and fear of Islam, and this was one of those occasions. Signed, Boaz_David"

F_H: Sorry sport, but all-that's ALL!- who have ever been born or will be born will make it this includes all present day pagans or every present day pagan. By the way there is NO! traditional ever burning torturous hell-fire nor is there any incredibly stupid pagan moslem paradise with eternal sex orgies for the men. Moslem women apparently will only get to watch the men with their boys and girls. I wonder if these third class moslems that's the women will have to wear a large black tent with a gauze window for eternity? One day you F_H will accept Christ and God the Father willingly.
By the way you say that pagan moslems see Christ as a Prophet - no mate He is the Son of God as the Scriptures PLAINLY say so you do not believe Christ of the Bible really do you? You do come across as a prize twit sometimes with your "Vast?" Biblical "knowledge?"
One day there will be NO 'big al' (he also will accept God the Father and His first born Jesus) NO allah (who is satan as I see it) NO moon god of mecca and no death loving lying untrustworthy pagan moslems (ALL of them like you will have willingly accepted God the Father and His Son Jesus). Regards, numbat