Actually its a surprise this guy is still making headlines in the media. I think if all Australians (Muslims and non-muslims) ignore him he will eventually go away. There will still be the few thousands of the old generation who would still listen to him, but at least it will give a chance for new imams to appear, there are lots of good ones.

Nothing changes on OLO: smart posters and the 'nutty brotherhood of the ring' are still kicking.

Peace,

Netab,

Islam and world domination is no laughing matter. This religion has been misguided since its beginnings. The result we are all paying for today including the millions of poor souls who are following it.

Fellow_Human,

Welcome back to the land of the free - how was the o/s trip?

Hillali is the best thing that came of Islam since a long time. Without people like him we would not have public discussions on the horror of Islam in our land.

As for Ishmael AX – watching parts of his last video clip I noticed a lot of resemblance with the Jihadists videos EXCEPT he was obviously mentally disturbed.

The real Islamic terrorists are well instructed from their Qur’an and are eagerly committing the acts according to their religious beliefs with poise and dignity, listening and reciting passages of the Qur’an.

But hey let them in Australia and let them continue to read that holy book that instructs young people to perform Jihad.

Paranoia? I sincerely hope so...

Islam will never reform from within - new leaders or not - it will have to come from the rest of us. Muslims are too scared to question the status quo and too ignorant of their own religion to see it's real effect on society.

You see what happens when you fan the flames, Boaz?

>>Cho Seung Ho's Ming was probably very disturbed way before he discovered Islam.Islam was probably the catalyst that justified his hate spurred on by isolationism and feeling inferior<<

The assumption has already been made, on the flimsiest of "evidence", that the Virginia massacre is an Islam-driven atrocity.

How do you think this affects ordinary people, who do not think for themselves but allow Fox News and the Daily Telegraph to do it for them?

How much needless hatred have you unleashed, simply by propagating the "Ismael Ax = Muslim" furphy?

Hey, it may turn out that the guy was indeed a religious fanatic of some persuasion or other, as religion seems to be the sickness that causes the maximum of hatred between neighbours, doomsday cults etc. these days.

But in deference to the families who have lost loved ones it would be decent to wait a little for real evidence to emerge.

Boaz_David? David Koresh? Coincidence? I'll let you decide.

Hey Pericles,

Actually Boaz fell on his own sword with the last comment re Ishmael:

The biblical version of Ishmael talks about a 'lesser brother'suffering discrimnation, exile and wishing for revenge..
On the other hand, the Quranic version denies it stating that Abraham treated his sons equally and used to visit Ishmael and helped him to build the Holy house in Mecca..etc..

Now, if you expose an average person to the two versions of the story, which one promotes hate and envy? :):)

Coach,

I noticed you moved from anti-Islam monologue to a 'dialogue with yourself'. Keep away from the syrup and stick with the pills :):)

Thank you for your well wishes I had a good time.

Peace,

FH,

Your sense of humour is still intact. So is your art of evasion from the real issues at hand.

Like for example my last comment:” Islam will never reform from within - new leaders or not - it will have to come from the rest of us. Muslims are too scared to question the status quo and too ignorant of their own religion to see it's real effect on society.”

Also your comparison of scriptures is most interesting.

In your opinion and by sheer comparison I hear you say that the Qur’an is true, so the Bible must be false.

But the Qur’an clearly states that the Bible is to be respected as truth and even proof for the Qur’an.

What proof do you have about the Ka’aba?

How do you know it has been built by Abraham when clearly all historical, biblical, and archaeological accounts put Abraham and his tribes miles away from Mecca?

More to the point how do you know the Qur’an is the true revelation – when it contradicts most of the Bible?

Fellow_Human: Be fair dinkum - have you EVER! read the koran? And if you have do you really think it stacks up with the Bible or even stacks up with 'Goldilocks and the Three Bears' Have you read the koran's version of how the human body operates? Is the koran true when it says that the sun rises out of a swamp or that stars are peep holes that allow the jinns to spy on us from heaven and do blood thirsty psychopaths even if the cruelly and cowardly butcher fellow pagans whether they be male,female,children or babies do these totally stupid clowns really go to paradise where they live for ever in total debauchery having having eternal sex with both male and female perpetual virgins? - really H_M really. Regards, numbat