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Why Hilali must go, and go now : Comments
By Manny Waks, published 17/4/2007Absurdity has turned into reality in the serial drama that envelops Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali.
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Posted by Belly, Thursday, 19 April 2007 5:33:33 AM
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goodthief,
I deliberately did not quote the Qur’anic verses 1) for lack of space here – (there are hundreds) 2) there is always the odd ignorant defender of Islam that will say it's out of context. (Go figure) So please keep researching, and read the Qur’an for yourself. As for the threat of Islam to Australia – it is real, and it is now. Just think: we have 300,000 muslims today and already they are making waves in our society. Once they reach a million or two – in the next decade or so – it will be game over. Canberra will be ruled by Islamic governance. Impossible some will say. Well Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey,… were once non-islamic countries. CJ Morgan, Instead of personal defamation why don’t you find one fault in my post and critique it. _______________ The difficulty we are facing in banning Islam is that it is hiding behind a religion. And in Australia we allow freedom of religion. We already know that it is a false religion. What is needed is an open book discussion on what the Qur’an really teaches its followers. Why is it that when someone becomes a student of the Qur’an Jihad is the natural result? Muslims do not understand their own religion. For most it is just a cultural thing. They are rigorously discouraged to question their beliefs. This is the job of the Hillalis to brainwash them. Islam is a package deal. There is no word in Arabic for “secular”. No separation of State and Religion. The State equals Islam. One is a Muslim or a kafir (disbeliever). How can we allow such a political group to prosper in Australia is beyond me. It is clearly anti-democracy (Iraq) anti anything not Islamic. Islam comes from the standpoint that they have the only political system for the world. All other systems are defective and – therefore all must fall under Allah’s rulings. Jihad cannot stop until this is fulfilled. sharkfin, Sedition is designed to discourage people from discovering the real Islam. It doesn't work both ways. Posted by coach, Thursday, 19 April 2007 10:29:20 AM
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Dear GoodThief, let me echo my good friend CJ Morgans welcome 2 you:)
You ask for references ? Try these few mate. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.030 Quran 9.30 SHAKIR: And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! GT..notice that little call for the DESTRUCTION of all Christians and Jews ? I confess, I feel a little bit uncomfortable knowing that a community is growing in Australia which has as its foundational doctrine the call for MY destruction because of my faith. Hadith Muslim. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/001.smt.html Book 001, Number 0030: It is reported on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to FIGHT AGAINST PEOPLE AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT DECLARE THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, and he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf except for the right affairs rest with Allah. As Coach said, there are heaps of them mate. Try this http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Terrorism_Timeline.Islam Notice the posture of the Islamists ? Remind you of anything mate ? Have a peek at this: http://www.prophetofdoom.net/ The virginia Uni massacre.. done by a Muslim? "Ismail X" Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 19 April 2007 12:01:28 PM
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Boaz, this is typical of your instant rabble-rousing instincts.
>>The virginia Uni massacre.. done by a Muslim? "Ismail X"<< It has been reported variously that "Ismael Ax" was found to be i) written in red ink on his arm, ii) tattooed on his arm and iii) the name with which he signed his suicide note. How, with only this as evidence, do you deduce that this sad, lonely, deluded child was a Muslim? The odds are against your "leap of faith". According to the CIA factbook, the religious mix in S. Korea is "Christian 26%, Buddhist 26%, Confucianist 1%, no affiliation 46%, other 1%" Instead of standing back and waiting for the facts to emerge, you leap into action at the slightest hint that Islam might be involved. To what purpose? Presumably, for exactly the same reason that the blogs of the right-wing and Christian extremists are running hot on this topic around the world, to "blame" the event on Islam. You seriously have no shame, do you? Here's one of the more hysterical blogs in action: "Ismael is the Arabic for Ishmael the father of the Arabs, the son of Abraham and the one that Muhammad the founder of Islam favored above Isaac the father of the Jews. This terror seems to have indeed been motivated by Islam... I hope the media gets the Islamic connection here. I am sure what they will find is a story of a convert to Islam who was convinced that his only salvation is go to Jihad.<< And here is one of the more intelligent: "in James Fennimore Cooper’s story “The Prairie,” the settler Ishmael Bush... sets out across the prairie with two key tools, a gun and an axe... The axe — which can either kill or provide shelter — stands for both creation and destruction. Given that the VT killer was an English major, might this be the likely meaning of the words on his arm?<< Do you see the difference? Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 19 April 2007 6:49:01 PM
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Re -the Virgina Uni massacre.Cho Seung Ho's Ming was probably very disturbed way before he discovered Islam.Islam was probably the catalyst that justified his hate spurred on by isolationism and feeling inferior.
Most people in his condition will simply end the pain by suicide,but he felt so envious of the all the "normal people",he wanted them to suffer his pain.Islam is definitely a catalyst for this type of thinking,since it does appeal to those who feel victimised. Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 19 April 2007 9:08:36 PM
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Ah, its the paranoid christian club; reading your posts has restored my humor after a difficult day. I would imagine the anti christ Islamists will probably be laughing so much at your demented and paranoid reasoning that they will forget their plans for world domination. I don't know why you frustrated christian clowns don't put on a show, it seems that in these grim times that we all need a little bit of ridiculous humor and you lot have that in plenty.
Posted by Netab, Thursday, 19 April 2007 11:32:06 PM
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However its stretching it a bit to say any living leader of any other religion is as dangerous as some who lead Islam.
Even given the impending defeat, it can have no other name, of America in Iraq.
The world one day far too soon must confront radical Islam or become a horrible place to live.
Do not ever discount the lies that are currency in this community.
And if you think we can forever let bigotry in the name of a God not ours continue you are living in a fantasy world.