The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Australians 'the worst Muslim haters in the world'? > Comments

Australians 'the worst Muslim haters in the world'? : Comments

By Manny Waks, published 24/4/2007

Visitors to Australia can talk all the nonsense they want, as long as they aren't a security threat.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. ...
  11. 17
  12. 18
  13. 19
  14. All
Arjay: Even if enough Australians become convinced that we need to avoid what Europe is experiencing, how do you think we should go about it?

Boaz draws a really important distinction:

'Australians would be erring to hate Muslims, (who are as much victims of Islamic darkness as anyone) but they would be absolutely correct to hate and despise "Islam" as a religion.'

So, when I ask how we go about it, I mean 'How do we go about it without being unjust to Muslim people?'. My only thought is to do what we can to get closer to them, and try to interest them in a way of living more peacefully. (As I am a Xian, I must make clear here that I DON'T mean sneak up on them and evangelise. I'm talking about what all non-Muslim Australians can do.) Maybe this would influence them to look more critically at what they are taught, even look in their own scriptures for something better than what we usually hear about. Fellow Human says this goes on anyway, so maybe we could help it to increase. I can't imagine working on Islam from the outside as being anything but destructive and inflammatory.

No idea what the chances of success are, and I'd love to hear additional or better ideas.
Posted by goodthief, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 10:10:36 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Once more I do not think Australians hate Muslims, but I do ask do some Muslims living in Australia hate us?
Some , you will find them in any thread, are convinced truly held concerns are generated only by Medea intent on directing our thoughts.
Some claim us to be xenophobic ,hardly even close to true.
This country has thrived on migration from every country in the world, multi culture's s not in any way under threat.
I question migration from some not all from this religion.
And I require my my right to believe in no God to be proteced.
I know of only one religion that would condemn me to death for my belief.
We are told in our education of evolution and then in fear of death we all will face give power to religions fueled by fear to impose views that divide men on us.
Who needs help now? what a great world awaits if we stop saying we need bed time story's to live by
I think we need to be aware education if not honest is the most dangerous thing in the world.
Some quite openly dumb down whole peoples we need to be aware of this.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 26 April 2007 1:50:45 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Australians 'the worst Muslim haters in the world'? No, not at all. The experience in societies everywhere is the same.

Anwar Shaikh was a devout Pakistani Muslim who killed 3 sikhs in 1947 in the name of his religion. Later he emigrated to the UK where he gave up Islam and became one of its ardent critic.( http://www.islam-watch.org/AnwarSheikh/index.html) In a book “Islam and Terrorism” written by Shaikh and reviewed by Koenraadelst described the Muslim community,

“Remember the good old days when the bobbies, Britain's police constables, did their rounds without carrying guns? It cannot honestly be denied that the behaviour of an ever-increasing number of young Pakistanis has contributed decisively to the sad discarding of this glorious tradition. Every non-brainwashed European can confirm that an influx of entire Muslim communities (as opposed to individuals or single families, who tend to blend in like most isolated immigrants do) has created a new set of problems for their societies. The larger these Islamic islands in Western society become, the less willingness they show to adapt, and the more they insist on maintaining or restoring Islamic mores and laws within their communities and ultimately in society as a whole.”
http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/AnwarShaikh.html
Posted by Philip Tang, Thursday, 26 April 2007 4:05:41 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Even as an oldie, haven't had much to do with Muslims, except from our troops returning from the Middle East, who got close to calling them no-hopers.

Even so, we must not forget that we have plenty of Muslims just to the north of us, largely including Indonesia and Malaysia.

Also this might be why they might act so arrogantly here? Or do they? Or is just us?

Furthmore, Malaysia as a Muslim country can be very proud of itself.

Just wonder if as former proud British colonials we are still acting our snobby pasts?

Wonder if we could use a bit more praise? Looking at out future here, better do something about it, anyhow. War War, certainly won't fix it, neither.
Posted by bushbred, Thursday, 26 April 2007 12:39:19 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Bushbred "Furthmore, Malaysia as a Muslim country can be very proud of itself."

Really?

I suggest you ask the non-Malay Malaysians, like the Malay-Chinese community how they view the way that old Reprobate, Mahatia, vilified them and forced them to take on incompetent Malays into their businesses.

Malaya has been one of the most racist Countries, with the most draconian laws enacted from the Commonwealth, they were almost indistinguishable to Apartheid as practiced in South Africa.

That they are an official "Muslim" country is no coincidence to their implementation of racist social policies and programmes
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 26 April 2007 1:51:07 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
It doesn't take much insight in today's events to understand that the biggest killers of Muslims are other Muslims.
Yet they are all followers of the same God, all read the same Koran but a huge gulf exists beween the killers and the killed.
How much wider is it beween the fanatics and the West? And why are they here in this country and how do you tell the difference between them? When there is so little difference .For the sake of the few who would disregard the difference, you would place the rest of the population at risk.I do not think that is right.
Posted by mickijo, Thursday, 26 April 2007 2:40:44 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. ...
  11. 17
  12. 18
  13. 19
  14. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy