If we scale everything back to the sub atomic level then everything is material otherwise it does not exist.

Regressively as something is devolved to understand it it no longer the sum of something else. An ash broken down to carbon and sodium is no longer smoke, no longer wood , no longer a tree, no longer soil. Ash is neither soul or spirit of a tree, that history is extinct.

There is no alternative to the material.

West,
What is light? Please explan its sub-atomic structure.

West,

Out of curiousity...

Suppose a piece of hot iron rod gradually loses it's heat energy in a vacuum (in space)

Is it not correct to say the iron is losing something, (in this case heat energy)?

But yet the iron is not losing any material. It's weight and atom count remain unchanged.

How would you account for existence of such a "thing" (eg. lost heat). Is it possible to quantify in a physical, material sense?

Oliver,
A 1.The fact that life has expression that's non-material doesn't make it fantacy, a deception as West maintains. Character, attitudes, motivations to behaviour, wisdom, understanding are as real as matter. It's these things that are spiritual and expression of soul (the real person).
Q 1. concept of the "soul"?.
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A 2. The eternal character of God was expressed in the humanity of Jesus. The soul, ie chartacter, attitudes, behaviour of Jesus exactly expressed the eternal character of God. Jesus humanity gave him his human identity, his character (soul) identifying his nature as very God. Material Creation is the handiwork of God - the soul is the breath of God (to use the Hebrew idea) influenced by spiritual input into the person and their reactions and responses. The fact we still talk about and admire and promote the the very character, attitudes, behaviour of Jesus means he is still living in those that adopt his character, attitudes and behaviours.

Q 2. Jesus have a soul before incarnation and into perpetuity? _________________

A 3. You are still trying to identify a spacial concept of God and the soul by asking if God HAS a soul. God is not spatial he is spirit. Has-means-additional-posession-of; God is expressed through character, attitudes and motivations.Does-God-have-character-attitudes-motivations-YES!

Q 3.If god has a soul?
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A 4. Life is dependent upon devouring other living forms. Something dies that others might live even if you are vegetarian. Death is a part of living.

Q 4. Why is the insect world so cruel?
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A 5. Jesus as is God are not proud nationalists. Abraham was given a family mission to enlighten and bless all nations certainly not to establish an exclusive nationalist regime. God intended to bless all men with his forgivness and grace. Racial nationalism is not a part of his agenda. He merely called a family to a mission which they abandoned in the face of threats from opposing nations.

Q 5. Do you feel that Romans usurped Jesus as a Jewish persons Messiah? That is, you would recognise Christ as an extension of the OT.

Heat and light are energy which is destroyed through entropy. Energy does not last for ever. While it exists it exists , once it is gone it is gone, there is no ghost light or ghost heat. That beside the 'material' I spoke of includes light / photon particles , radio waves, friction, pressure ect.

Light and natural invisible phenomena are irrelevant when discussing occult fairytale concepts of spirits and souls. The spirit or soul suggests a conscious entity. For it to be so it needs sensory systems. Witch doctors for centuries have been claiming bliss in heaven. Without a brain with what does a phantom feel bliss? Witch doctors have been claiming pain in hell. Without nerve endings what does a phantom/soul/spirit feel pain with? Without a brain how can it suffer? Some witch doctors even claim a new immortal body in an "afterlife" with the down loaded history of the previous brain. If so then the soul or spirit is nothing more than transmitted datum from transmitter to receiver. It would still not be the individual who died. Even looking past that a new body then makes the whole life exercise pointless when the immortal body could have been put into operation in the first place as it then looks bad for the creator who demonstrates amazing incompetence by the whole spirit saga.Everything religion promises is in death, yet like a bad conman it has nothing to back up its promises.

Philo,

1. I will need to print-off your answers and have a think. Thank you. I do have a concept of the non-spatial and non-time. Similarly, in QM the notion of infintesimal applies. God performing "acts" is also problematic, if spirit is without spacetime. That idea, could lean towards the Greek posit of the Unmoved Mover? Tenses and action verbs do not apply.

2. If you are interested in partical physics [photons] and have access to university databases, I would recommend an article by Richard Nisious [CERN Accelerarator], "The Photon Structure from Deep Inelastic Electron-Photon Scattering in Physics Reports 332 (2000), pp. 165-317. 153 pages! It would be a challenge for West to succinctly describe the phenomena [plural], owing to differences in states. Also, one should regard this aspect partical physics as work-in-progress