West, I can prove using science that your concepts of reality are all based on misconceptions imaged through clumsy senses relying on inferior biology. The truth. You can't handle the truth. You haven't the sensor capacity to cope with reality. One wayward biochemical spasm and you think you see. That you understand. Bah. Your a plant, a cockroach, a field mouse. Your dependent on the very planet and nature that you willingly pollute in the name of a self-righteous science.
The science knew man was an environmental poison. That's why from the very moment of conception man begins to die. It is written in the science. Man is a dis ease. It is written in the science. All hail the science. Science is God.
Oh, you poor misbegotten fool. You have no idea. No conceptualization of the moment of creation. The beginning of time and the end of your time. Your whole existence is a useless biological process and nothing more. You eat. you breathe, and you crap all over everything beyond your capacity to imagine. You call on science to prove your disbelief as valid not understanding that science was there before you in the beginning and hasn't the answer. Science can not create something from nothing. There is only one power that can do that and that is a truth that lies outside biology or physics or Freud's chemical dependency.
I feel sorry for you. Your a base biological mass that has no purpose other than to consume the planet it relies upon for it's very existence. Your a locust. Devouring everything to a single end. Your demise. What a pathetic existence. It must really suck being you.

Aqvarivs says .. "Read a little Carlos Castaneda. He writes about increasing awareness. Very different from fixed and entrenched perceptions." lol

Cannot believe someone here seriously recommending that I need to swallow the deceit from this fraudulent story-writer. This all gets back to Aqvarivs saying something like ....."I WANT to believe. . . So I DO!", which is true of hedonistic self-indulgence too. It then becomes easy pickings to feed such a belief addict with all manner of delusional mumbo jumbo. BUT there is always this endless supply of suckers who are such easy pickings and the beauty is they don't know it or in some cases may vigorously deny with some delusional "proofs" of their own.

This Castaneda deceitfully uses a pseudo-mystical manner to hack in on the vulnerable and exploit the technique of student/master and then on to disciple I presume. Now, where have we seen that before? But look, here he cynically exposes belief addicts to this idea that hallucinations are really unconnected with the drug-taking, LOL, because they are all part of being and belong to the objective reality. i.e. Drug induced delusions are true perceptions of the objective reality. Aqvarivs would read this as providing some measure of respectable evidence for the paranormal and not realise that Castaneda like all true teddy virus writers, has had great success and penetrate all bases by disabling mechanisms essential to human functioning.

I've run my virus check on Aqvarivs and he has come up positive so the issue now is one of disinfecting and rehabilitation .... (i.e. the really hard work).

Keiran, I knew Carlos Castaneda would be out of your troll zone. That you nearly transcribed word for word some one else's opinion from Wikipedia proves your biological ineptness. I didn't demand you believe his work. I suggested it as a tool to expand your mind. But trolls like you lot have little capacity for thinking outside the narrow confines of your self-imposed reality. Of course your misuse of science and language that provide for your self-righteous and contemptuous view is but a by product of having no belief system or sense of value beyond your right as a victim of society. Your contribution being a deserving leach. I don't wonder you have the opinions you do. I wonder why your found haunting threads that you have no intention of contributing to other than providing a disruption and consistently taking the matter in discussion of track. Oh, right your an intellect. Your well read and have something to contribute to the subject that may give other pause to think. NOT.
Goodbye loser's. I see Sellick has a new thread going, better get over there and work your magic. Don't ever let anyone convince you disbelief isn't a viable argument. Pound away with your post modern humanist existentialism. I'll give you credit for one thing though. Abortion. Keep up the good work. The idea that you'd propagate would be an oxymoron. Remember, science is God.

Aqvarvis I like being me , Ive had a good ride and I am looking foward to the rest of it. You do demonstrate your total immersion in your own ego by thinking because I am not ignorant and superstitious nor paranoid about delusional fetishised idolatry as believing in god or am so self adoring that I suffer the delusion of thinking such childish fairytale nonesense such as a soul exists that my life sucks. If my life sucked then obviouysly I would hate life and so believe in an afterlife and worship death as do all god believers. As the god believer believes they will be rewarded in death by being magically given god like imortality as a reward for stroking their own ego's throughout their life and adhering to magic occult rituals suchy as prayer or abstaining from some useless act.Effectively you are saying because you are deeply burdened by paranoid superstition, moral panic, a belief and adherence to fairytales and your reward for your devotion to ignorance is a gamble , your life sucks and so you think everybody elses does too. Because why ? non -believers are not shooting up on god , the fairytale nicotine patch, your imaginary teddy to cuddle? Grow up , get a grip.

West,
You fail to understand others points of view.

You said by implication you are not delusional, childish, or believe fairytales; "I suffer the delusion of thinking such childish fairytale nonesense such as a soul exists ..."

In your denial you are saying in this quote you do not exist as a living human. Your view of the science of the human body places you as an innamitate construct. It is just that you argue against your own existence that makes you appear ignorant of reality. The denial of what is identified as the "soul" identifies you as not being alive. The soul is the life and the living behaviour expressed. Since you are not alive, obviously there is some opposing spirit communicating this on OLO. Do I believe in a spirit World? Obviously my previous denial of spirits other than expressed by living humans is being challenged. The dead do speak, at least write or haunt this forum.

You I believed were alive - obviously dead, and promoting death to humanity.

Aqvarivs, for your information I'd long forgotten this fraud Castaneda and couldn't believe that someone like yourself, in this day and age would be recommending him with "he writes about increasing awareness." When I started reading his first book more than thirty years ago I don't think I even made it to the end of the first chapter before realising he was a con artist of the worst kind. There were plenty of these types about then but where are they now? Of course this was long before your Wikipedia, too.

You are quite wrong when you refer to me as some sort of "intellect"... "with your post modern humanist existentialism" because I'm simply a nobody and if "nobody" is perfect then I am perfect. The reason I sometimes post here is simply because it abounds with all manner of funny/unfunny stuff written by belief addicts and boyo you are an alarmingly unfunny, tragic mess. How did you get like this?

If we are moving on to the confessional (i.e. Peter's next article), then I must now make a true confession here with everyone ......... I cannot comprehend non-existence. (i.e. Which translates to the universe always existing and infinite in the three spatial directions.)