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In search of vision : Comments

By Saeed Saeed, published 30/1/2007

John Howard's continuous rhetoric to the Australian Muslim community to solve their problems only further marginalises them.

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Saeed Saeed,

Islam has no place in Australian politics or Australian society. Islam is simply at odds with Australian values.

You can breed like rabbits, intimidate with your violence, cry victim at every corner, it still won’t work.

The problem with Islam is Islam.

Unless you find some “Moderates” who will publicly challenge the doctrines of Islam, and make the necessary amendments, Islam will continue to be a curse for Muslims and a plague to the rest of the world.

The ball is in your court - so stop blaiming the rest of the world for your problems.
Posted by coach, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 12:46:45 PM
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The unsolvable problem was created by the Whitlams, the Frasers and Hawkes and now Mr Howard is suppose to come up with a magic solution. The social engineers of the 70's, 80's and 90's have got their way. It is the same people who are demanding a solution. Throw out the true God you find out that socialism achieves only chaos. The vacuum is now being filled by false religions such as Islam. Australia's only real hope is repentance and turning to Jesus Christ.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 12:58:08 PM
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Isn't it strange? Yet another Muslim with a victim mentality. "Our youth are being marginalised!" Who is marginalising them ?Themselves that is who.World wide, it is plain that this Multiculture enforcement of different cultures has failed.
Everywhere that Muslims have settled they are trouble makers, arrogant,demanding. Refusing to be part of the Australian people whom they obviously hold in contempt, yet we are supposed to give in to every whim, every demand they put on us.
Instead of wanting Australians to give in, how about Muslims trying to be Australians for a change.How about realising that you are doing us no favours by your presence here and that most of us would prefer you not to be.
And we do not appreciate being insulted by your so called clerics. They are disgusting racists , if our government had a back bone, they would send them packing.
Posted by mickijo, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 1:43:40 PM
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I think the 3 posts above are perfect examples of the author's allegation of marginalisation.
Who is being intolerant now?
Posted by wobbles, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 1:55:00 PM
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Saeed Saeed - Your article makes it sound like Muslims having isolated and insulated themselves from mainstream Australian society and culture now want that same society they have shunned to provide their needs and demands of Muslim society or else. And that the or else makes it not just a Muslim problem by an Australian problem.

Saeed Saeed, Hizb-ut Tahrir, are they part of your or else for Australia or are you just threatening riots and more rape.

Muslims are the ones with an us or them attitude towards Australia. Who wants to hire a guy who is going to demand Islam becomes part of the workspace or bring in their hatreds and anger and disrupt the workforce.

If Muslims want things to change they have some very concrete steps to take. Number one is to own up to their racism and religious supremacist BS and begin to stand with Australia as Australians and denounce the hateful rhetoric being spewed by Muslim leadership.
Don't ask Australia to reform if Muslims are not willing to conform, and to reform Islam.

It's not Australia's place to conform to Muslim dictates. It's for Muslims to become honest citizens of Australia and conform to that society. Get your shoes on the right feet.
Posted by aqvarivs, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 1:55:09 PM
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"negative stereotyping of Muslims from the media and politicians"

So Muslims themselves have played no part in this ‘negative stereotyping’? The Muslim community has been singled out by the media for no reason? Not a week goes by in Sydney when we are not confronted with violent crimes committed by ‘Men of Middle Eastern Appearance’. Strange how so much trouble can be caused by a minority of the population. Just as there is no smoke without fire, there would be no ‘negative stereotyping’ of Muslims without a good reason.

'his “Us and Them” approach is failing dismally.'

Continual demands for special treatment, special handouts, special laws and taxpayer-funded religious apartheid come from the Muslim community, not from John Howard. The result is that many Australians regard Islam as a dangerous polity rather than as just another religion. Or wouldn’t you describe Muslims-only bathrooms and swimming pools as an us and them approach?

“it is an Australian national issue”

Laws restricting our freedom have been enacted because of Islamic threats and terrorist attacks. Australia did not have problems of this nature before the importation of Islam. The problem is unsolvable because many of the tenets of Islam are against Australian law.

Muslims will never change their belief in the words and example of Mohammed, and Australia will never change its laws to accommodate Muslim beliefs. How are Australians to feel about a $38 million handout to the Muslim community? $5 million will be used 'to teach Muslims how to live in Australia'.

That says it all.
Posted by dee, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 2:22:46 PM
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