Errr...According to John Stone, climate change, melting icecaps, unprecedented heat and cold waves, unprecedented drought..none of that is the 'real issue'.

Aussies got it wrong, Sheikh Tag is the 'real issue'...
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Ise tooo agree with Don and Godzilla help me, Boaz and SaintFeltcehre on this matter.

It is radicallism weez are talking about here. Malasssia and Indonesia with its "panacia" policy outlawing radical fundamebntalism could have some meerit. Compaired to the middle ear, this region is more mooderate in the kinds of Islammic countries we have in the Asia-Pacific/Indian Ocean.

This does not come cloose to the problems of global worming. It is gunna-going to cost us a missfortune to clean up this mess and as the UK has announced, we no longer have a choose.

Fasten your sheat belts, stock together, and try to be sensationable. This is going to be a rough ride to stop globex worming turning us into Ethiopia with Hurricane Katrina's pants. We have no time to be afraid or pretty when we know a very serious stoerm is approaching. Ask the farmers.

In Rove we trust.

Stone and similar fear mongers remind me of Channel 9 - still broadcasting last centurys programs to an audience that is finally nauseated. Let him bleat, i say, this summer will show even dunderheads on parliamentary pensions that their beloved business as usual will kill us all quicker than Osama and Bird Flu combined.

If we're in such peril its surprising Chairman Howards culture police allow such upatriotic sentiment - don't new Sedition Laws bar undermining confidence in the State? By stoking fear and parroting ignorance doesn't Stone feed fundamentalist recruitment?

But RightThink demands an enemy, they need War and an Other to demonise and rally the doubters (lest they too be labelled 'Other', like the fags, the abos, the feminists, the bleeding hearts, the academics, the rentacrowd, ...). "No more commies? Lets fund the haji's till they're enough of a threat to cover for culpable military adventurism and incompetent defence-contract pork barreling".

But it is funny watching them bend and twist, inventing new sales pitches for old old policies. If they're doing it for their 'place in history' they better stop now, cos suddenly, just in last two months, i don't know anyone who would micturate on them if they were combusting (as a Christian said to me)

Scaremongering is what I call this.Crowdcontrol via chemical med's and the use of fluorolisic acid,aluminium,chloride in our DRINKING water, gun control,it starts all over again as in the 30'ees in Europe
To top it all off, the oil scare,global warming what rubbish!
Exporting natural gas to China and lucrative export of uranium,coal etc.
will still be going on to pay our debts to the world? Where is the money going? What is the profit doing to Australian citizens? We are under the thumb from an illigit government.They do swear an oath to the Queen of England when taken a Government possition,don't they? That makes them foreign agents, we therefore do not have to abide. That is the storm which I can see brewing.Together with the scrapping of multi-culturalism
and outlawing any religion which embraces different laws whilst not abiding the laws of this once lucky country.Direct democracy and not parlaimentary rule is what is needed here.

BD,
The basis for most of your arguments is quotes by radicals as a basis for everybody’s beliefs.

Here are just a few quotes from who I call “the American Taliban”. They all come from Presidents, politicians as well as Church and respected community leaders. There are lots more.

“We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.”
"There should be absolutely no 'Separation of Church and State' in America."
"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
“I praise God all the time for AIDS."
"We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."
"We are to make Bible-obeying disciples of anybody that gets in our way."
"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."
"Today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between Communistic Atheism and Christianity."
"Nobody has the right to worship on this planet any other God than Jehovah.”
“George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United States, he was appointed by God.”
“Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity.”
"The Islamic people, the Arabs, were the ones who captured Africans, put them in slavery, and sent them to America as slaves.
" Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation.”
"Raising your children under Americanism or any other principles other than true Christianity is child abuse."
"Democracy originated in the mind of a rational being who has the deepest hatred for God."
"The best way to insure the earth is never over populated is for sensible and righteous governments to clear all forms of atheism and heresy."
"For the first time ever, everything is in place for the Battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ."
"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them".
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There are many more quotes along this theme. How are they different from the lunatic rantings of a few Muslim fundamentalists?
The Bible also says that non-believers should be killed and that everybody should be converted, but most of these influential people are expecting EVERYBODY to die in a blaze of righteous glory and actually they have the means to achieve this.

So BOAZ_David, which CURRENT religious or political leader speaks for you?

BOZZIE, the point of that link is to show that despite all that has happened in London there are community leaders still willing to build bridges and not put up walls to solve their problems.
(“everybody in London should be free to live their lives how they like as long as they don't stop other people doing the same”).

So short of killing every last non-believer, what’s your preferred solution to getting out of this quagmire?

A formal Citizenship Test a-la John Stone? (Ridiculous.)

Forcing them all to convert to Christianity? (Which version? Never mind, we wouldn’t trust them anyway.)

Sending every last Muslim out of the country, regardless of citizenship, and officially ban the religion? (Could cause problems with our trading partners.)

Some sort of apartheid or segregation system to isolate them from us?
I know – round them all up and put them in special camps until we can work out a Final Solution? (Been done before but maybe this time it just might work.)

I’d really like to know if there are any other options.

Our relationship with even moderate Muslims has been poisoned to the extent that we can never go back.

Anyway if we wait long enough, the media will find another cause to promote for their political masters and once again, lead us by the nose in a different direction.

They will again tell us what to wear, what to watch, what to eat, what to believe, what to fear, who to trust and who to hate.

By then the climate issue may also just go away too.