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A bigger storm is brewing : Comments

By John Stone, published 21/11/2006

Media elites are in a frenzy over climate change while ignoring the real challenge.

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I think I'm gunna be sick! Wobbles directs us to an article in The Guardian telling us how Red Ken Livingstone thinks we're being mean to Islamofascists! That's your idea of facts?! God, (or should I say, Gaia) help us!

Actually Wobbles, the poor old Jews still bear the brunt of a fair bit of hatred - mainly from your Islamic friends and their sycophants like Red Ken. We're really not dealing with Italians, Catholics, or the Irish. It's something closer to Nazism. But then there were heaps of people around who didn't want to oppose that either.

If you don't think that your way of life, or your culture and traditions are worth protecting, then fair enough. Why don't you just come out and say this instead of denying the obvious threats facing them?
Posted by bozzie, Tuesday, 21 November 2006 1:13:38 PM
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Firstly, the author is correct only insofar as we have a real problem of interface between the Muslim world and the West.

People like Stone think of it as an external problem being foisted on us, though the problem is as much to do with our own making. This is not a defence of Islamic militants, just a recognition that we are guilty of lighting the fuse. Meybe its hard to put out the fuse now that it is lit, but many of us warned against lighting the fuse in the first place. You should have listened John Howard and John Stone and all others of your ilk!

Secondly, there are actually three key threats, not two. A lot has been said of climate change and despite remnants of pathalogical denial, this is now being recongnised for what it is - the biggest moral dilemma ever to be faced by humankind. Hundreds of millions of lives are at stake.

Yet in the short term, the end of the age of oil is as much a pressing problem, and will have its own diabolical ramifications on society as we know it. I would argue this problems is as big as that posed by climate change, for not only is the world plunging itself into resource wars (witness Iraq), a quadrupling of energy prices in coming decades has the potential to cause immense hardship, civil strife and the collapse of some major economies.

Let's not try to diminish one crisis in order to highlight another. All three are issues of major humanitarian concern. Putting on blinkers does not help. A healthy debate on all fronts should focus on appropriate courses of action, not stupid denial.
Posted by gecko, Tuesday, 21 November 2006 1:17:47 PM
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Its time you made a comeback although you would probrably have to stick to PC if you did. This is one of the most sensible articles I have seen in a long time. Talk about mass hysteria on climate change when its been around since God created the earth.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 21 November 2006 1:30:59 PM
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And in the meantime while the ostrich Australian government leaders bury their collective heads in the sand, the muslim cleric who sneeringly called Australian girls,"pieces of cat's meat" goes about his daily business no doubt thinking up something even more filthy to call his host country's female inhabitants the next time.
Because he can use every dirty word in his 'sermons' to stir up hatred and possible rape but this government will just hope no one hears it.They will shut their trembly little ears so they do not hear it.
Had any Christian cleric used identical words about muslim women, the streets would be burning.
Posted by mickijo, Tuesday, 21 November 2006 2:59:53 PM
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I do not agree with a lot of what John Stone writes however what I find disturbing is the new McCarthyism emerging in relation to the debate over climate change. How many of the doomsayers above are actually doing anything practical to help the environment instead of ranting about the end of the world and the idiocy of those wanting to discuss the economics. How many of you have sold your car, stopped flying and converted to solar energy? More action, less talk people.
Posted by matt@righthinker.com, Tuesday, 21 November 2006 3:29:46 PM
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Sheesh. John Stone sure is angry.

In 2005, 70 percent of Australians were worried about global warming, and 57 percent were worried about Islamic fundamentalism (Lowy Institute).

It's a democracy John. It's not very nice to say Australian women are cat's meat, but it's also not very nice to say 70 percent of Australians are stupid for not agreeing with you on climate change.

All this crankiness is going to do is drive up your blood pressure
Posted by chainsmoker, Tuesday, 21 November 2006 3:57:20 PM
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