No, you're wrong mate.

While the veil is an intricate part of 99% of women's lives, the mini-skirt is worn by only a small number of women in their twenties.

The fact that you can say this shows racism towards our culture, which is why Muslims so often say Australian culture is just alcohol and sex before marriage.

They say this because they must reconcile the fact that their way of life is so immoral that they have had to live in a western civilised nation.

Look at their leaders, they have the personalities of filthy corrupt used car salesman. They are mostly racists, bigots, and today we've seen that ALL Lebanese Muslims who rang Arab radio station 2ME (funded by us dumb infidels) support Hilali's comments, while those of Christian Lebanese heritage and non-Arabic Muslims were against it.

The head of the station said this.

The non-Arabic Muslims were only against it because mosques are bitterly divided on ethnic lines, so they only like leaders of their own race.

Muslim leader Tom Zreika said on 2GB that most of the Lebanese Muslim Association's board agree with Hilali, and the President of the Muslim Women's Network blamed the media and said he was taken out of context.

Almost all Muslims at Lakemba mosque today agree with his comments, so unless there are protests within the next few days from the Muslim public, I believe it's fair to say that most Muslims are misoginistic people who don't care if infidel women are pack raped.

In a way this is good because it sums up what many of us have been saying for years, being called bigots for exposing bigotry!

Those vile leftists who protect these rednecks from criticism should be forced to live among them.

I am astonished how little honour they all have too, lying to our faces about mistranslation, what animals.

ALL IMMIGRATION FROM THIRD WORLD CULTURES MUST HALT IMMEDIATELY.

AUSTRALIANS ARE SICK OF REDNECK CULTURES.

"It is simply a Western convention that we tend to expose our faces."

Rubbish. It is also a custom in China, South East Asia, the Aborigines,
the Native Americans, the Polynesians, Melanesians, in fact everywhere but the Islamic world and even there it is a minority who wear veils.

This is not to say that it is necessarily a bad thing but it is the custom of the greater part of the world to leave the face uncovered.

If men only commit rape because of the way women are dressed how do you explain the case of the retarded handicapped girl who was sexually assualted and the video was posted on the internet in recent days. This girl certainly wasn't dressed provocatively

It should be pointed out to Mufti Shiek what’s his name, that if men cant handle the way women are dressed then perhaps they shouldn’t be allowed out into the streets. Or maybe they could wear dark blinkers or something. After all its their handicap not womens. Im sure women would find no problem living in a city of women.

Mirko says that more tolerance has led to a greater acceptance of homosexuality. No war have ever been fought over homosexuality but plenty of wars have been fought between religious tribes and other tribes, therein lies the danger with the Muslims.

How dare this muslim Shiek? come here and tell us how we should dress. Notice that the priests of any religion always try to gain control of the women and their fertililty because they want more and more children to increase their followers and so increase their wealth which they obtain by donations.
Every religion in history has done this even the pope who still preaches non contraception to his followers but the people in the West have woken up to this and refuse to go along with it as one day the Muslims will too. They are just a couple of centuries behind the West in waking up to the power games that the priests play.

People in the West still have their bible and God but they long ago refused to let the priests dictate to them. It was the priests who eventually had to bow to the wishes of the people if they wanted any one in their churches. Do the muslims ever ask who the hell are these muslim clerics. They let these men tell them how to live and they don’t even know them from a bar of soap.

RELIGOUS VILIFICATION......

Yep.. I challenge the Sheik to come to Victoria and repeat what he said about "People of the book....
-going to hell"
-Not for a weekend
-they are the WORST in all creation. <-- this is the vilification.

Here we have a specific religous group..NAMED and then 'MARGINALIZED' and then HELD UP TO PUBLIC RIDICULE and is he inciting HATE towards us ? hmmm I don't know how else to interpret "they are the WORST in creation"

All of which are illegal in Victoria under the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act of 2001. Refer section 8.

SNEEKY... thanx for your encouraging words mate. Let me try to answer about 'cultural tyrany'. I guess my conclusion was a 'sound bite' style.. aimed at getting something into heads and staying there.

I would not call it 'cultural tyrany', but cultural assertiveness.
Tyrany is usually associated with ruthless and brutal enforcement. Assertiveness would be better connected to improved immigration policy and simply fine tuning the law.

I will now make an assertion: "Full face veils are not socially or culturally acceptable in Australia."
Let me try to support this.

1/ As a social experiment, I once dressed all in black, with combat boots, trousers tucked in, looking every part the 'extreme/militia' type. I received LOTS of critical/worried scrutiny from passers by, but more so from security people who thought all manner of things.

Just imagine if I had taken my experiement a further step and wore some swastika's on my arm... wow.. I cannot imagine I'd be allowed into a terrorism trial. Nor..could I walk past a synagogue without hasty police attention. Bottom line.. the symbolism of such attire is not acceptable.
2/ The Burka is symbolic of atrocities perpetrated by Mohamed similar to those of the Nazi's.(against JEWS I might add)
3/ The Burka is the most 'extreme' symbol of Fundamental Islam.

CONCLUSON. Burkahs are not acceptable and should be prohibited, by law, as should Swastika's.

BOAZ_David,

Re not getting away with wearing swastikas. You would likely not even get away with wearing them to a 'come in bad taste party', would you?

Fortunately, I do not live in Victoria. If I did, I fear that what I had done by way of oxymoronizing certain unnamed Islamic clerics before this latest idiocy by my esteemed fellow citizen, the Sheik of Allawah and Lakemba, may have been classified as 'serious ridicule'? I would value your opinion. What I did can be viewed at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=134#3547 . It is the last post. Have I dropped Sylvia right in it? She shouldn't have to become a bag girl.

Incidentally, I have always understood that the Sydney suburb of Allawah was named shortly after WWI as a sort of salute to our Turkish opponents in that war, commemorating the war-cry that doubtless many old diggers had heard. This clown could take a leaf out of Mustafa Kemal's book so far as magnanimity is concerned. Then again, I have read somewhere that the Turks are regarded within the rest of the Islamic world as "the scum of Mohammedanism". Perhaps that explains why Turkey and Australia, at the national level, get on so well and show such regard for one another. Does anyone know for sure about the naming of Allawah? And can there be such a thing as 'serious ridicule'?

Obozo, I didn’t need a blow-by-blow breakdown of the Sheik’s speech. It’s not hard to understand what he was saying. But thanks anyway.

The thing is, I’ve lived my whole life surrounded by Christians who tell me I’m going to hell. So the fact that a Muslim cleric also says it really doesn’t bother me.

I’ve also grown up in a culture surrounded by plenty of men and women, some of them judges, police, teachers, priests and their followers; who also believe women are responsible if they get raped. So the fact that a Muslim cleric also says it really doesn’t bother me.

And I’ve heard plenty of stuff from radical feminists who tell me that because I’m a man I’m just an animal with no control over my urges. So the fact that a Muslim cleric also says it really doesn’t bother me.

The more interesting question is: why does it bother you so much?

Anybody who believes what the Sheik was saying is just plain wrong. And, if we are to apply logic and consistency, then all the vicious epithets you’ve been hurling at the Sheik apply equally to anybody else, of whatever background, who share those views.

From the scenes at the Lakemba mosque, it looks like he has an entourage of a few hundred people who are rallying in some kind of personality cult, like we’ve seen in so many weird Christian sects in this country. If the cameras and reporters went away, the cult would be finished.

And I think Benjamin was being unintentionally funny when he said that “Australians are sick of redneck cultures.” I know I am.

Benjamin keeps asking whether we can now generalise the attitudes of the Sheik to all Muslims. It’s clear Benjamin really wants to. “Can we, can we, can we hate them all now, can we?” he (figuratively) asks.

But no Benjamin, we can’t generalise; because the evidence as reported in interviews, letters and newspapers today is that most Australian Muslims don’t agree with the Sheik. Some clearly do, but most don’t. Sorry to disappoint you.