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It's all about mini skirts and veils : Comments

By Mirko Bagaric, published 27/10/2006

In truth, opposition to the face veil is all about Western prejudice, just as opposition to the mini skirt is all about Islamic prejudice.

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What nonsense! How could anyone say that the predictable and wholly legitimate reaction to another silly comment from Sheik Doolally “reveals and underlying racist core in Australia”?

Rather than attend one of his philosophy classes as he suggests, Mirko should be avoided like the plague. The man has flipped his lid. I used to agree with most of what he said, but times are sure a-changing.

It is not “absurd” to suggest that we “have the right to view the faces of those with whom we come into contact”. Faces are a means of recognition and, like it or not, judgement of people on first contact.

A person without a face does not exist. Comparing the face with other parts of the body, generally covered, shows just how far down the logic ladder Mirko has slipped. What other means of identification are there for driving licences, passports. And, how would Birko go identifying half a dozen Muslim women with covered faces at a police line-up?

Western and non-Muslim objections to covered faces have nothing to do with “intolerance to difference”. As for mixing more with different cultures, would anyone feel right having a friend whose face they had never seen?

Come on!
Posted by Leigh, Friday, 27 October 2006 10:38:16 AM
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"As for mixing more with different cultures, would anyone feel right having a friend whose face they had never seen?"

Actually I'm quite happy never having to ever see your face
Posted by Rainier, Friday, 27 October 2006 10:54:17 AM
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sneekeepete please don't misrepresent what I say. I did not say I was offended by full face veils.

However, for the reasons I've stated, I do object if someone wearing one wants to talk to me. Given that I do not as a rule carry a paper bag, such a person can either uncover their face, or accept that I will not be involved in a conversation with them.

Sylvia
Posted by Sylvia Else, Friday, 27 October 2006 11:03:06 AM
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Sancho,

The current issue is totally related to Islam and their view of female sexuality; as no leader of the KKK or any criminal leader is currently saying all men while in public must constantly wear face coverings, and to fail to do so is indecent sexual exposure. The issue is totally related to sexuality of women and Islam makes it so. The KKK and the like do it to hide identity, and they also do it by personal choice from their perverted superiority.

Islam sees woman as half a man given purely for mens sexual pleasure [women are lesser human beings; One man equals two women] as they believe Allah designed them to entice men into sin. Lewd men can be forgiven in Islam but women must be incarsarated or stoned to death and not ever forgiven [Sura 4: 18 - 19, 24: 2 - 10]. They cannot accept the equality of women as equal to men as the Quor'an emphatically teaches men are the superior creature. However it is totally insulting to good Muslim men who see women as equal and good Western women who have no evil intent in their dress choice. Muslim men who are sexually perverted see all women as for their sexual pleasure.
Posted by Philo, Friday, 27 October 2006 11:06:58 AM
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There is only one thing that is needed here

For these type of actions which are unaceptable in todays day and age and also this is Australia, where the rights of a person to dress as they like are a expressive freedom.
This freedom has be part of australian culture and we do not need someone to tell women they are meat. If these people think this badly of our culture then there is one thing to do.

Place these people in custody take all relevant information
Remove australian passport and remove australian citizenship
deny all future travel to australia
send back to own country of birth
sell all their properties for the treatment of rape crimes

This is australia and this we do not have to tolerate

Australian Peoples Party
email:swulrich@bigpond.net.au
Posted by tapp, Friday, 27 October 2006 11:30:23 AM
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Mirkos comments again show how out of touch many university Professors are with common sense. He concludes 'Westerners and Muslims both need to drop their small minded relativistic perspectives and embrace a more universal and tolerant disposition - national unity depends on it. It is the so called tolerance of Britian and France that has gone a long way in destroying their countries freedom.

How can you be more tolerant to a group of people who hate freedom, hate Jews and hate Christians. One day those on the left will wake up to the fact that they also hate you but are willing to embrace you while you appease them. Australia's flawed inmmigration rules are well over due for revision. I hope this becomes an election issue before its to late for my children and grandchildren.
Posted by runner, Friday, 27 October 2006 11:43:20 AM
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