Muslim women must conform to the father or husbands wish and live their life relative to his interpretation of the Koran. Women who assert themselves in any way in Muslim society are severely punished. Not only can there be an immediate divorce, they can not be divorced and have all the "rights" of marriage denied them and be kept from society, literally locked in a room. No other Muslim in that community will speak her name for fear of giving offense. Veiling the face isn't about social values. It is about women not being socially visible. You don't have to recognize or treat with any dignity, or respect that which isn't there.
If veiling the face or cloaking the body was a valuable tool for Islamic society it would be the men who covered their faces and cloaked their bodies. However Muslim men demand an open face in all communication so to show that nothing is hidden and deception is not intended.
Democracy is anathema to Islam.
Muslim men don't rape because their sexually frustrated by Islamic social conventions. They rape women in the democratic countries they have immigrated to because the women there are equals and that can not be left unchallenged and these women must be dominated.
Rape is still about power and not about sex.
Perhaps Muslims could split the difference and wear the veil with a mini skirt. :-)

Hey, a friend on YouTube directed me to this site after one of my comments. My opinion on this low life are his an idiot. How can he compare meat to woman? You cannot blame RAPE and ABUSE solely on the women fault it is us men who must control our selves. Its not the women’s fault for wanting to look attractive. Men must learn to control themselves and here in Australia women have as much rights as we do. If they decide to wear what they want men like this so called Sheikh should respect that and if no respect is given and comments like this continue on I believe he should be extradited. Me being Lebanese and from a Catholic decent find this very abusive and without women I believe us men would not survive. It is them who prepare food for us and look after our little kids and do our shopping. They play as much part in our everyday life as the next person and maybe even more.

Yours Sincerely,
kroniic

Mercurious,

To say I must be being funny about saying we Australian-Australians are sick of redneck cultures shows you believe non-whites aren't capable of racism. If you can't swallow that think of them as hairy heads (as opposed to skin heads).

Open your eyes, discrimination on the basis of race is a way of life for these people, um...heard of sectarian violence in Iraq?

You also say that if the cameras went away it would be over, this shows that YOU DON"T want to see many of these people (read my earlier post, where the head of Arabic Radio says most agree with Hilali, also read Tanveer Ahmed's comments in the Australian today about how most Muslim males (he's a Muslim, I know your type think only one of their own is allowed to criticise their backward culture) see white women as whores.

Confused? What to do, a Muslim says many Muslims are rednecks?

I don't believe all Muslims are rednecks, but I do believe if there are no protests to have him removed by the Muslim public, that one can say this shows support, as we've already seen.

It's people like you, who refuse to condemn the "ethnic other" for anything (because you don't see them as equals like you do say Cardinal Pell, if he said it - you'd be screaming for cameras from the whole world over mate) that have caused these issues.

One day there will be treason trials for those who support rednecks, look forward to seeing you there.

BOAZ,

Look at my earlier post, the racist Muslim Youth Councillor's name was Fadhi Rahman. Don't let SKHAN, who must have a screw loose to think we are racist if we want signs in English, think your wrong about it.

Are there any Muslim leaders who aren't on par with the characters of vile conmen? How could Hilali say this at a religious festival?

What do the likes of Mercurious think of the fact that not one of the 500 people present during his RACE HATE speech, left?

Are they bigots?

While picking table grapes in several vineyards in Emerald Qld, I made my own head & face veil for heat & sun protection. Oh, yes, was laughed at & called the Turk's wife.

With global warming & the need for women to work longer I can see more women taking up the face veil as well as other suitable attire, in future years, both on and off the job.

But it is not about such simple things as veils and miniskirts, is it Professor Bagaric ? For starters the girl wearing the veil could have her genitals butchered at any moment as a precursor to an arranged marriage.

Fortunately the girl wearing the miniskirt usually only suffers some embarrassment at the unwelcome glances of admirers. Although she would much prefer that religious bigots did not seek to rationalise a physical attack on her by some sociopath out for sexual gratification.

Whilst on this subject it is interesting how the feminists would castigate some men for wolf whistling an attractive girl, but they defend ethnic customs that brutalise women and the young (of both genders). Both genders because the mutilation of boys’ penises through ritual circumcision is just as offensive, though not as invasive, as the genital mutilation of girls.

Readers would probably be aware of the current news story concerning a 13 year old boy who ‘cannot be a Jew’ until even more of his foreskin is removed. He has been ‘cut’ once already. Let’s see, that would make the score: Religious Control Freaks 2, Bleeding Confused Boy 0.

So Prof Bagaric, as an educated man you would be fully aware that it is a smart trick to keep stirring the pot about veils, wouldn’t you? After all, veils are a much-needed diversion from discussion of the deeper problems of multiculturalism that result in differences in the liberal freedom and status of Muslim girls and women when compared with their Australian counterparts.

I can see why multiculturalists would prefer to talk about veils than loss of rights.

We need to sit down and talk about the pros and cons of multiculturalism and the rule of law in a secular nation. It is not acceptable that some people have lesser rights than others in a democracy as a result of (claimed) cultural imperatives that advantage the few at the expense of the many.

Typical of Howard, Goward, and Costello blathering on about the sanctity of our women when they fully support the ongoing US bombing in Iraq which is causing the deaths and maiming of thousands of innocent men, women, and children. The moral vacuum in Canberra continues unabated.